[godelski]

Yeah that's kinda the impression I got but was hoping it wasn't or there was an alternative. Thanks.

Is this one Open Source too? I wasn't sure which project it was under. But if it is then maybe someone else can revive it because I'd love to have a Slack alternative that is E2EE.

[mdaniel]

It was my recollection that Matrix had support for E2EE, although in fairness I believe XMPP does, too, but as an extension and thus finding compatible implementations and clients could be a hassle

While digging up supporting links, I was reminded that Element exists from the creators of the Matrix protocol, and while their website is an MBA-buzzword-athon their communities page does cite E2EE <https://element.io/communities#:~:text=secured%20with%20end-...> and they are permissively licensed https://github.com/orgs/element-hq/repositories

[godelski]

My understanding is that no one has built a slack like client for matrix. Whereas at least keybase has something that looks like slack with teams, channels, and threads. But I've only played with it in a sandbox.

I mean there's lots of open source stuff. Signal is open source and people still complain about it being centralized but just won't run their own servers and connect them together. So I think open source isn't enough. It takes people working on things.

[Arathorn]

Element looks as much like Slack as Keybase did…