[arp242]

Corporations conspiring to kill not just one but several undesirable employees is very rare. Actually, I don't really know of any other example.

And here it also doesn't make any sense; the cat is out of the bag, there is nothing to cover up because we already know about Boeing being a clusterfuck. Killing anyone doesn't really make much difference.

"Surely it can't be coincidence", "corporations conspire", and vague references to "military industrial complex" are exceedingly poor arguments – actually they're not really arguments at all because you can say that sort of thing about almost anything.

[janalsncm]

> there is nothing to cover up because we already know about Boeing being a clusterfuck

We know about the results, when doors blow off and tires fall off. You don’t need a whistleblower to tell you that.

We know less about what’s happening internally. I think the relevant information is the extent to which Boeing knew about problems and what they did with that information.

[dialup_sounds]

We know less about what's happening internally

That's literally what both of these guys already made public at different times about different facilities. Is there reason to think they had additional information that they just decided not to share?

[ClumsyPilot]

> And here it also doesn't make any sense; the cat is out of the bag, there is nothing to cover up because we already know about Boeing being a clusterfuck

Executives are the ones that have motivations, not the abstract entity of Corporation.

'Cat out of the bag' would be 'we have specific evidence that allows us to prosecute a specific executive for criminal negligence or manslaughter'. That would be why you might kill someone, to save your own skin.

[dialup_sounds]

'Cat out of the bag' would be 'we have specific evidence that allows us to prosecute a specific executive for criminal negligence or manslaughter'. That would be why you might kill someone, to save your own skin.

Is there any reason to believe that either one of these men had any such evidence and had thus far not shared it?

[Log_out_]

Could a executive be RICOed?

[mistermann]

>> Corporations also conspire, especially those deeply embedded in the military industrial complex.

> "Surely it can't be coincidence", "corporations conspire", and vague references to "military industrial complex"...

That was a slick transformation, I wonder if anyone noticed.

> ...are exceedingly poor arguments – actually they're not really arguments at all because you can say that sort of thing about almost anything.

Were they presented as an argument, or merely as a factual observation?

[spacemadness]

You show zero imagination here. All you need is someone powerful that doesn’t want to be implicated.

[wryoak]

Describing what one can have readily seen on Netflix is not a display of imagination

[coldtea]

Yes, things seen in Netflix never happen in this pure and innocent world.

Presidents are not assasinated, blackmail doesn't happen, whistleblowers are not hunted, persecuted and murders, union leaders aren't targetted, hush money are never involved, corporations don't lie and cover up crimes, the head of FBI never kept tabs on politicians and public figures for blackmail, prior-presidents never pay hush money to hookers or do shady business dealings, running-presidents and their sons never get bribed to promote business deals or cover up corruption, and nice sinecures on corporate boards never await ex-presidents and prominent politicians who catered to those corporations during their time in office.

[spacemadness]

Whatever that is suppose to mean. Just a Gotcha! I guess.

[somenameforme]

No you don't know of any other companies doing this. Nobody does. And in a few years, nobody will even remember this either. Whistle blowers, or witnesses, against powerful interests have this habit of constantly dying in really exceptional circumstances. And there's never any proof available that it was anything other than just extremely rare events, happening constantly, and in a very small population of people. Go figure.

The reason groups want to get rid of whistle blowers is two-fold. The first is to try to prevent on record testimony. But the second is to intimidate other whistle blowers. If you see some funkiness, even the sort leading to deaths, going on at Boeing right now, you're going to be thinking long and hard about these 'mysterious deaths.'