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by freejazz 773 days ago
>You claimed that courts do not store documents about cases in SQL databases (e.g. case number, defendant name, their plea, etc.) but that's wrong, they do.

That's not what I said at all and it's absurd for you to even pretend otherwise considering how many times I pointed it out to you in our short correspodence.

>I have more direct experience than you do - and startups already exist that do this very thing with LLMs, but go ahead, have fun on the wrong side of history making false claims and straw manning arguments

You do not. I'm an attorney, you've clearly never used Lexis or WestLaw and have no idea how attorneys actually do their work based upon everything you've written in this thread. That's what has been pointed out to you, not that you don't know SQL, but that you clearly have no idea what attorneys do, why they do it, how they do it. And yet you are insisting that this tool will be something that facilitates the work of an attorney while demonstrating complete ignorance about that actual work.

>You claimed that courts do not store documents about cases in SQL databases (e.g. case number, defendant name, their plea, etc.) but that's wrong, they do.

LOL, do you think these are the "facts" about cases that attorneys need? Get a f**king grip.

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An attorney with takes like "they don't put the facts from cases into SQL databases to query" yikes! They literally do

> you've clearly never used the software I use

> this tool doesn't know my workflow

> etc.

LLMs already train on knowledgebases like WestLaw. You really think there will never exist an LLM for legal research, etc.? That much is probably happening now, I just haven't heard of the startup.

> Get a f*king grip

So a defendants PII, plea, criminal history, time served, etc. are not important to a defense attorney?

>An attorney with takes like "they don't put the facts from cases into SQL databases to query" yikes! They literally do

Oh, so now its back to facts and not just documents? I said they don't abstract the facts into an SQL database. Westlaw is not an SQL database of facts. It does not have a series of different entries of different types of facts about a case. When you search for something on Westlaw, it's not filtering through different kinds of facts to see if there is a pertinent entry, it's just string searching. I pointed this out to you earlier.

>LLMs already train on knowledgebases like WestLaw. You really think there will never exist an LLM for legal research, etc.? That much is probably happening now, I just haven't heard of the startup.

I never said that.

>So a defendants PII, plea, criminal history, time served, etc. are not important to a defense attorney?

No, not to the extent that it would ever justify what you claimed about the utility a RAG would provide.