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by goosedragons 788 days ago
X HAS those things. Ubuntu's version of Gnome for example has supported fractional DPI scaling and per monitor scaling on X11 since I think 20.04. Upstream Gnome wasn't interested because that's what Wayland is supposed to do. Xrandr has made this possible for years with some setup.

Wayland is frustrating at basic crap. Just this past month I had issues sharing my screen, getting programs to use my PATH correctly and setting options. It's insanely stupid that SO much has moved over DE that how you do things between Gnome, KDE, etc. are now all radically different. It's actually worse than X11 in so many ways.
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Hendrikto 788 days ago
> X HAS those things. Ubuntu's version of Gnome for example has supported fractional DPI scaling and per monitor scaling on X11 since I think 20.04. […] Xrandr has made this possible for years with some setup.

Via some ugly hacks that degrade performance and make things look blurry. It‘s not the same.

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znpy 788 days ago
I mentioned network transparency in another comment, and wayland will never have that unless they implement that "degrade performances and make things look blurry".

So meh, you give and you take, life is a compromise.

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Vilian 788 days ago
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe

here, found the wayland network transparency, fix your comment

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znpy 788 days ago
Not officially supported, irrelevant
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orangeboats 788 days ago
If you have known the structure of the Wayland protocol before making the comment, you'd know that "official support" is a red herring.

The only official thing provided by the Wayland project (other than the protocols themselves described in XML) is the wayland-server and wayland-client library pair, which is more or less just a serializer and deserializer of the protocol.

There is also Weston, but we don't talk about it.

Waypipe is about as official as Kwin, Mutter or wlroots, and yet we don't disregard those projects as being irrelevant due to their unofficial status.

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phendrenad2 777 days ago
> "official support" is a red herring

That sounds like a bad thing, no? ;)

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zamalek 788 days ago
There are maybe five people in the world that care about network transparency (an exaggeration, but probably not more than 2 magnitudes of order off). X11 was built for every scenario conceivable. Wayland is being built for end-user thick devices. What you decide not to do is more important than what you decide to do.

And some dedicated soul managed to get it working anyway, as a sibling comment has pointed out.

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