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Sure, fine, maybe the UN report is all wrong -- even though everybody seems to use it. What's your best estimate of civilian + military casualties in Ukraine, with whatever supporting evidence you care to muster? Edited to add: You've edited and added to your post after my response. In response to your Reddit links, I think that they distract from the main point, which is that the Gaza war has disproportionately affected civilians, even in comparison with the worst of Ukraine's battlegrounds. Ukraine has depth, and not only can its civilians move west to cities such as Lvov, its citizens have been invited into Europe. In contrast, Gaza is a sprawling low-rise cityscape with a population of 14,000 people per square mile -- far in excess of anything in Ukraine; nearly double Kiev's population density -- and Gazans are, for the most part, forbidden from leaving. Egypt can't take them, save in special circumstances. All the privation of war is felt by this civilian population -- and, at least to an extent, this is used by Israel as a weapon. Russia, for all its faults, has a straightforward strategy and straightforward, even realistic aims. I don't think you can say the same for Israel. It's just wild. |