[Nifty3929]

I'd love to see some thoughts and ideas about how to pay content producers while still maintaining control and privacy. The current solutions like invidious don't offer that.

Youtube's value is much more as a payment vehicle than anything else.

Is there a different type of front-end that could be built which still maintains ads or allows you to login to Youtube Premium, but which still gives you control over all the other stuff?

[hinkley]

In the old days, you’d put ads in a section of the newspaper based on an expected demographic affinity. Or in certain TV shows.

This could be a situation where Nielsen could be the good guy. Let’s use the information we already collected over the last two decades, and information from volunteers to audit those numbers and assign shopping patterns to subject matters and interests instead of individuals. Maybe then I’ll stop getting ads for very expensive, buy-once a-decade items for months after I just bought one. You’d be so much better off advertising accessories to me. Those I will buy and while your ad agency still works for you.

[_heimdall]

Quite a few content creators have reached for some combination of tools like Patron and paid private memberships.

Pre-roll and mid-roll ads are also getting more common in both YouTube and podcast content as well. I think one tricky thing is reach, YouTube promises a huge potential audience that you don't get syndicating your own RSS feed and residuals don't usually exist for pre/mid-roll ads like they do for YouTube (if you get much longterm growth).

[dvngnt_]

i use pateron

[TheBozzCL]

If Google ever fully blocks alternate clients, I'm gonna have to cancel all my Patreon memberships and I'll make damn sure they know why.

I mean, my subscription's not gonna be worth that much to them, but it's still more than they would earn from me watching ads. Fuck the ad industry.