[ethanbond]

It’s totally reasonable to scold people for using emergency exits (especially alarmed ones) without an emergency need.

It also doesn’t make you a bad person or stupid to subconsciously miss signage. But you should be okay with a bit of scolding in that case.

[TeMPOraL]

Is there even a reason for an emergency exit to not be treated as a regular, auxiliary exit? I.e. not labeled as regular, but also not an issue if people use it.

[Terr_]

> Is there even a reason for an emergency exit to not be treated as a regular, auxiliary exit?

Absolutely, ex:

1. When that exit may be used as an entrance to a prohibited or fee-only area. Someone inside opens the latch for people waiting outside, either intentionally or accidentally, allowing them to enter without being noticed.

2. To supplement other things which may trigger an alarm, or for situations that can't be detected in a simple standard automated way. (E.g. violence, unusual chemical spill, wild animal.) It also means you don't need to plant as many alarm-panels around the place which panicked people are unlikely to use on their way out anyway.

[kelnos]

The reason is often the opposite: you don't want people coming in that door (maybe it's a limited-access building and you don't want to staff security/ID checker at more locations). Sure, you can lock it from the outside, but if people are regularly leaving from that door, randos outside are going to sneak in before the door shuts.

[petsfed]

If the facility has any need to control access, they need to be more aggressive than just one way doors, since fire-code compliant one-way doors are trivially defeated with a doorstop.

[QuantumYeti]

It's not reasonable to scold strangers, especially if you're just some random employee.

[MrVandemar]

If you're an employee, and a member of the public is in your workplace, then you have a reasonable expectation that they will behave according to the rules of that workplace. Often these rules are for safety, and for sure it is absolutely reasonable to scold strangers if they have zero situational awareness.

I work in a medical practice. We have an expectation that people will obey rules for their and our protection. For example: we had a sign that, at our reception desk, that people should stay behind a line and not approach too close.

There was a thick, clearly visible tape line on the floor.

There was a two large signs on reception desk asking patients to stay behind the line.

This is during the heightened awareness of the pandemic. People were asked to change their behavior in many ways.

Patients would just come up to the reception desk and lean over the desk.

Damn right I "scolded" them for it. I mean, I didn't roast them, but I used a tone of voice, and asked them to step away from the desk, and pointed out the signs. Some of them were cranky about doing so ... when SARS was rampant!

[vermilingua]

Yes, it absolutely is reasonable to scold strangers for things like this, especially if you’re an employee who sees it happening regularly.

[permo-w]

scolding is broadly something you do to someone you see as beneath you. if you feel the need to scold strangers, you've probably got other issues

[petsfed]

So if one of your peers pulls a fire alarm or blasts an air horn in your work place, while you're on a call or engaged in some other highly focused task, the appropriate response is to just shrug and think "I need to be such a highly emotionally controlled person that I can only passively deactivate the alarm, contact an authority who won't even be here before the culprit leaves and just move on with my day"?

Fine, I didn't "scold" this person, I called out a peer for their shitty, antisocial behavior. Or is holding someone accountable even in words for the painful consequences of their decisions unacceptable too?

[permo-w]

>So if one of your peers pulls a fire alarm or blasts an air horn in your work place, while you're on a call or engaged in some other highly focused task, the appropriate response is to just shrug and think "I need to be such a highly emotionally controlled person that I can only passively deactivate the alarm, contact an authority who won't even be here before the culprit leaves and just move on with my day"?

why are the two options angrily telling someone off or silently and submissively accepting the situation?

the way mature adults react to interpersonal trouble is by quelling instinctive emotions and calmly communicating

[petsfed]

I didn't light into him like a drill sergeant. And I didn't go off on every person who walked through that door. I just turned off my customer-service obsequiousness for once and directly stated (without yelling) what I thought: that his only mitigation, that it was an innocent mistake, reveals that he has absolutely no business attending a university.

But apparently, my comment (just checked, I never even used the word "scold") suggests to you that I must have been shouting him down, calling him a lazy, stupid asshole, for not walking the extra 100 feet through the correct exit, like everyone else had been doing, for months. Lord knows a part of me wanted to, but I am not the unhinged psychopath you clearly think I am.

[kelnos]

I think you have a definition for "scolding" outside the mainstream.

You scold someone who has done something wrong and should know better. There need not be any judgment about the person's worth attached.

[permo-w]

the definition of scolding is "angrily rebuking or reprimanding someone". in my understanding of human psychology, that is something people do not do to people they see as equals. more specifically it's a behaviour a person is extremely unlikely to participate in if they feel the other person has enough social, physical or economic capital to punish them for it.

[matheusmoreira]

I see your point and you're definitely right about that. If you're going to publicly scold someone in front of their peers, you better be ready because it's going to personally insult them in very deep ways, to say nothing of their social standing.

If you're scolding someone you should probably be a badass drill sergeant, literally made of muscle, many times their superior in rank and with enough balls and testosterone to unblinkingly look them in the eye while heaping abuse right at their faces without one shred of hesitation, so that the sheer audacity of it all shocks and intimidates them into total submission. And you would also do well to remember that at least one movie depicts exactly one such drill sergeant getting shot in the chest when a certain scoldee went postal over it.

[ethanbond]

“Just some random employee” as in… the person tasked with maintaining security and safety of the facility?