[HSO]

> gets an education

and probably pays good money for it -> http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost...

service rendered and paid for, he doesn't owe you anything, wtf do you want?!

> he's also benefiting from the infrastructure, the business climate, the population, and more

i don't know his story, but if he grew up in the US, his parents probably worked there and paid taxes like everyone else that paid for those things.

also, there are other countries that have that kind of infrastructure, business climate, etc. give or take a bit of quality here and there. some of them have less regulatory capture, thus are both more effective and more efficient, and thus can provide equal or better services for less taxes.

it's completely legal to leave for greener pastures if you can, that's why freedom is a good thing. your faux moral argument smacks of either envy or socialism, can't quite decide which.

listen, the state doesn't have a "moral right" on your money, energy, or time. first, you're born somewhere but then you basically make a deal. most people enter this deal implicitly, but it's still a deal, it's got nothing to do with morality or ethics.

[philco]

The logic behind your efficiency argument is fallacious. IF that were the case, he would have FOUNDED and BUILT the company on greener pastures.

But he didn't, he built and founded facebook here, and this is where he should pay his debt. He benefitted from the climate on THESE pastures, and the cost of doing so should be paid.

[icandoitbetter]

> listen, the state doesn't have a "moral right" on your money, energy, or time

Of course it does. Without the state, there would be no property rights.

[Karunamon]

That's a legal right, not a moral right. Strictly business, in other words.

[icandoitbetter]

The state gives you the "moral right" to your property by protecting it from others using violence. There's no such thing as private property without the state. That was my argument. I'm not taking a position on whether Saverin should've retained his citizenship and paid taxes or not.

[Karunamon]

Except the state doesn't actually protect, they only enforce consequences after the fact. If someone wants to destroy your property, the state is powerless, and the aggressor will more likely than not be successful, depending on their and your level of savvy.

I know this sounds incredibly pedantic, but feel it's important to make the clarification.

[HSO]

without the state, i'd wear arms.