[wolverine876]

This stage is called denial. There's also anger, bargaining, depression, and finally, in the end, acceptence. I'm saying in a funny way, but I suspect it's true.

Who can say how AI will develop, but beware of happily-ever-after stories. It could be a nightmare for all of civilization, for just engineers, or just not develop much futher.

[jhrmnn]

The problem with this is that it could be a universal argument against any skepticism. So unless skeptics are always wrong, it doesn‘t really work

[pfannkuchen]

Absolutely! The "stages of grief" are just the stages of approaching a problem. Grief is just special because it is an unsolvable problem and so you go through all of the stages. Entering one or more stages of this process does not mean that you are going to go through all of them. In most non-grief cases it stops earlier.

[wolverine876]

That's a very interesting approach!

Ideally, skepticism has none of that: Denial is arguably not part of skepticism - it lacks skepticism of yourself (i.e., denial includes certainty). Skeptics has nothing to do with anger, or bargaining (you can't negotiate truth); and depression and emotional acceptance also are out of place.

Skepticism is unemotional in that its definition doesn't reach into emotion. But skeptics - all humans, as far as we know - are emotional creatures, and beyond a doubt those emotions play a role in driving much skepticism.

Which returns me to my point: Many responses to AI are driven more by those emotions than by skepicism.

[hooverd]

Nah, it will bifurcate the industry between people who have a mental model of how things work and people who only know how to press the code dispenser button. Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster.

[Buttons840]

And those who know what they're doing will have reliable work fixing the slop they made, but for less pay. (I say this because, judging by pay, building a new website, no matter how poorly, is more valuable then doing something like maintaining the banking systems.)

[dartos]

This is true.

The gap between seniors and juniors just gets bigger.

[FirmwareBurner]

>Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster

Or it will reduce the demand for inexperienced juniors and offshore teams since you can replace their slop with AI slop.

[hooverd]

Well, it's a good thing seniors are hired from the void fully trained. /s

[FirmwareBurner]

You laugh, but where I live the market for juniors (other than summer internships exclusively for currently enrolled university students) is basically zero right now.

Every company is looking exclusively for seniors or at least mid level. They don't care that someone needs to train juniors in order to become seniors as long as it's someone else who has to do it. Companies can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

So everyone keeps telling me how hot the SW dev market is right now due to all the openings and the high demand, meanwhile I'm only getting rejections because I don't have 3+ YoE in AWS, Kubernetes, Django/Flask, System Design, etc.

[from-nibly]

Who is saying the market is hot for the employees right now? It's dead as a doornail.

[plorkyeran]

This is a problem that a lot of fields have had (e.g. hand-crafted furniture). Technological advances killed the market for juniors but demand for seniors remained. In the short term it's completely fine, but then a few decades later there's not enough new seniors to match demand.

[nradov]

What is the correct quantity of "senior" furniture craftsmen? How do we know there is a shortage? Unless there has been enormous wage inflation in the past few years then I am skeptical of any shortage claims.