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by ninetyninenine 847 days ago
Eh he might be right. I would listen to his ideas dispassionately. Many geniuses who were right were ridiculed.
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For every genius who was right and ridiculed, and celebrated accordingly, there are many people who were wrong and ridiculed, and forgotten accordingly.
His work is definitely worthwhile. Wolfram Language by itself is actually very cool. I really wish he would open source it. I'm not going to use any math package that isn't open source for anything.

I think his physics work is pretty interesting as well.

I think the reason he aggrandizes, and this is only speculation, is because he is pushing the envelope in many fields simultaneously and wants to "credentialize" himself, and give people context on his background.

He might also be insecure self-absorbed. Which, while annoying, doesn't disqualify someone's ideas by itself. It just means you might need to watch for ego-based confabulations in their work.

It might also mean he's a pain to work with, if it is indeed an ego thing. But I don't know the guy... so it's all speculation.

> His work is definitely worthwhile. Wolfram Language by itself is actually very cool. I really wish he would open source it. I'm not going to use any math package that isn't open source for anything.

Here is the official statements of Wolfram Research on this topic:

> Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source—A Dozen Reasons

> https://blog.wolfram.com/2019/04/02/why-wolfram-tech-isnt-op...

See also

> Episode 1: Thoughts on Wolfram & Open Source

> https://soundcloud.com/wolframresearch/wolfram-on-open-sourc...

If you nevertheless insist on having an open source implementation of the Wolfram language, have a look at the answers at

> https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/4454/is-ther...

I don't have an answer for him. I don't mind paying money for software, I get his points, but at the same time, it's a non-starter for me.

When it comes to math. Especially a system as cool as Wolfram Language, I want to hack on the insides.

I don't publish things, or have time right now. But in 10 years, I estimate I'm going to be wanting to compile math software on radically different chips and ISAs.

Without an open source language, everything I build on top of the system will be incompatible with hardware specific instructions, unless they compiled it for that chip, often missing very specific optimizations (which could be improved even today). Or I would need to virtualize.

All this math code will the most important and hottest running code paths in my system, and won't even be able to compile to experimental ISAs or their extensions to take advantage.

Those that were forgotten may be right too.

I would still listen dispassionately. He's smarter than most people on this thread, that's for sure.

Being logical is ridiculing someone for being wrong, not for being full of himself. Many geniuses were ass holes.

I assure you -- There's nothing wrong with ridiculing someone for being an asshole. How you interact with other people matters, like it or not.
I never said there was nothing wrong with it.

I said to be logical you should only ridicule people for being wrong.

Ridiculing someone for being an ass hole is valid but illogical. There is merit to this distinction because sometimes the ass hole is right and everyone else is wrong.

The key here is dispassionate judgment and analysis. Can you handle that? If not that's totally normal and valid.

Worlfram's ideas aren't wrong, aside from technical disputes. Anyone can learn a heck of a lot from Wolfram.

It's his way of making everything about himself and his plagiarism that put people off. He's Feynman without the charm.

He is no Feynman. Feynman warned us about people like him and this kind of alternative science. No one is saying anything.