[meter]

A popular theme in today’s productivity culture is “waking up early.” It’s considered a sign of discipline to wake up at 5am.

5am is reasonable... if you fall asleep at 8:30 or 9 PM.

I wish we’d stop emphasizing early wake-up times, and start emphasizing reasonable bed times. It takes just as much discipline, especially with my phone so easily accessible and the TV so easy to binge.

[noncoml]

It would also be great if we’d stop making the 8 hours the gold standard. The amount of sleep a person needs varies a lot and fluctuates over the year and lifetime of the person. It can be as much as 12 or as little as 5.

[FirmwareBurner]

>It can be as much as 12

If you regularly need 12 hours of sleep every day as base, it sounds like a health issue.

[noncoml]

I would be very interested to read any papers where this is mentioned

[proamdev123]

Fantastic insight. It’s far easier for me to get up at 5:00 AM than to go to bed by 9:00 PM. Or even 10:00 PM.

[slothtrop]

But it's all relative. What's reasonable is what allows you to get a full night's sleep. I get up at 7:20 am ish, so I wind down before bed accordingly (reserving an hour) expecting to hit the sack at 11:20-11:30 pm. The scheduling of wind-down is an effective deterrent against sleep procrastination, which I find manifests itself more when I'm already sleepy. If I watch tv or game earlier, I won't be in zombie mode, and I'll avoid blue light exposure immediately before bed.