[PrimeMcFly]

> One source has been posted thus far, and it contradicts what you've said.

That source is hardly credible now, is it? As far as I'm concerned I'm treating it with the respect it warrants.

> Low-quality sources, but again, it's currently low-quality vs no-quality.

The key is, as you say, low quality sources. It's a bunch of corporate blog posts trying to get clicks perpetuating a myth, just as corethree is so proud of doing.

> It's (IMO) somewhat rude to demand compliance without supporting your position.

I can see that. But, if we agree that an onus is on those who make a claim to support it, I don't think we should consider copying and pasting whatever link comes up first from a google search as supporting it.

The real issue here is that it doesn't particularly make sense to directly compare pigs and dogs like this at all. They have different kinds of intelligence, both of which are still being studying, and both stronger in areas where the other might be weaker or not have a showing at all.

That's why I'm not just providing a single source - because there isn't one, not that wouldn't be as low quality as what corethree provided making me a hypocrite. It's a complex issue that requires explanation and citations from multiple papers, and I didn't see corethree's post as being worthy of the effort that would be required in such a reply.

I will make the final notes that as far as I know we don't have evidence of pigs being self-aware while we do with dogs [0] and no pig has ever accomplished anything even close to what some of the world's smartest dogs have been able to [1][2].

I'm open to the possibility that pigs might be smarter than dogs, but I've seen no compelling evidence to support that claim at all. Just gullible people perpetuating the first thing they read.

[0] https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/news/dogs-habit-of-sniffin...

[1] https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/news/remembering-chaser-th...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_intelligence

[corethree]

Thank you for posting sources, you should have done this in the beginning.

Unfortunately I don't like your attitude nor do I care about this topic enough to follow through. No offense.

As a result I will not be following your sources and I will be ending this conversation. Thanks again.

[PrimeMcFly]

> Thank you for posting sources, you should have done this in the beginning.

It wasn't for you. Instead of saying I should have done that in the beginning, really, you should have done so since you made the claim, and you should have done the bare minimum research to realize your claim was bullshit and not perpetuate it.

> Unfortunately I don't like your attitude nor do I care about this topic enough to follow through. No offense.

> As a result I will not be following your sources and I will be ending this conversation. Thanks again.

That's fine. I don't really care about any of that. Instead I will just ask that you try to do better in the future and not perpetuate misinformation due to laziness.

[corethree]

Please don't respond to my thread nor impolitely reference me or accuse me of things if you're going to post things that aren't for me. I already stated this conversation is over. Walk away now. Do not respond me.

[PrimeMcFly]

> Please don't respond to my thread nor impolitely reference me or accuse me of things if you're going to post things that aren't for me.

It's not your thread, I replied to someone else and the effort put into that reply was for them.

> I already stated this conversation is over.

I don't really care what you state. Stating something doesn't simply make it true. If you feel the conversation is over, don't respond further.

> Walk away now. Do not respond me.

Don't give people orders that you have no authority or right to enforce.

If you feel the conversation is over, don't respond further.

[corethree]

But you're talking shit about me under my thread which my comment is the parent to my face. You're starting shit. I've literally told you I don't appreciate your attitude and you're still starting shit.

I have done nothing wrong. You may disagree with me but disagreement isnt an offense and your actions in response are uncalled for. I'm not walking from this thread. This topic was started by me so I stand my ground.

You're the party starting shit and in the wrong. You're the one that needs to stop.

Common courtesy is not to run your mouth on the Internet because your shielded by anonymity. Treat the situation like real life. I am looking you in the eye in front of your face and politely requesting you to Walk away now.

You can choose to be an ass and continue acting rude by not walking away. That's your right. But just imagine what that would entail if you did that in real life. Unfortunate that real consequences aren't enforced on HN. This thread getting flagged already is a big indicator that you crossed the line.

[PrimeMcFly]

> But you're talking shit about me under my thread which my comment is the parent to my face.

So what? I said you were perpetuating a myth and you were. It still not 'your' thread, what kind of childish nonsense is that?

> I've literally told you I don't appreciate your attitude and you're still starting shit.

Because I don't care what you think at all. I was talking to someone else and you decided to insert yourself because of this mistaken belief that it was 'your' thread. Most ridiculous thing I've seen in quite some time.

> I'm not walking from this thread. This topic was started by me so I stand my ground.

This is honestly hilarious. Walk, don't walk, I don't really care. But you have no ownership of the thread or right to tell me to stop replying. Go touch grass.

> Common courtesy is not to run your mouth on the Internet because your shielded by anonymity.

I made valid criticisms. You made a claim, only lazily supported it with a low quality tabloid article, defended perpetuating a false claim and refused to change your stance after I attempted to educate you. That makes you willfully ignorant, and I have no time for you. I will keep replying to you until this conversation runs its course though due to nothing else than curiosity.

> Treat the situation like real life.

In real life I'd ask you not to perpetuate myths or spread misinformation, and call you out if you tried to defend doing so with a crappy blog article as your source.

> You can choose to be an ass and continue acting rude by not walking away. That's your right.

And you can continue coming back trying to claim ownership of the thread and needing to have the last word because I called you out for laziness and intellectual dishonesty.

> But just imagine what that would entail if you did that in real life.

The same result? You complaining and being upset I dared to call you out?

> This thread getting flagged already is a big indicator that you crossed the line.

Actually the comments where I correct you and call you out are upvoted and not flagged at all.

I haven't crossed a line. I told you you were wrong, dismissed your low quality source, asked you to stop perpetuating misinformation, and then in response to someone else provided sources to show just why you were wrong and perpetuating misinformation.

You then tried to claim ownership of the thread and order me to not comment any further which is one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen on HN.

Look. You can admit you were wrong and that you were perpetuating misinformation and just move on, or you can keep needing to have the last word and coming back and trying to defend your behavior be talking about how 'rude' I was, but the more you do the latter, the worse it reflects on you.