[corethree]

Thank you for posting sources, you should have done this in the beginning.

Unfortunately I don't like your attitude nor do I care about this topic enough to follow through. No offense.

As a result I will not be following your sources and I will be ending this conversation. Thanks again.

[PrimeMcFly]

> Thank you for posting sources, you should have done this in the beginning.

It wasn't for you. Instead of saying I should have done that in the beginning, really, you should have done so since you made the claim, and you should have done the bare minimum research to realize your claim was bullshit and not perpetuate it.

> Unfortunately I don't like your attitude nor do I care about this topic enough to follow through. No offense.

> As a result I will not be following your sources and I will be ending this conversation. Thanks again.

That's fine. I don't really care about any of that. Instead I will just ask that you try to do better in the future and not perpetuate misinformation due to laziness.

[corethree]

Please don't respond to my thread nor impolitely reference me or accuse me of things if you're going to post things that aren't for me. I already stated this conversation is over. Walk away now. Do not respond me.

[PrimeMcFly]

> Please don't respond to my thread nor impolitely reference me or accuse me of things if you're going to post things that aren't for me.

It's not your thread, I replied to someone else and the effort put into that reply was for them.

> I already stated this conversation is over.

I don't really care what you state. Stating something doesn't simply make it true. If you feel the conversation is over, don't respond further.

> Walk away now. Do not respond me.

Don't give people orders that you have no authority or right to enforce.

If you feel the conversation is over, don't respond further.

[corethree]

But you're talking shit about me under my thread which my comment is the parent to my face. You're starting shit. I've literally told you I don't appreciate your attitude and you're still starting shit.

I have done nothing wrong. You may disagree with me but disagreement isnt an offense and your actions in response are uncalled for. I'm not walking from this thread. This topic was started by me so I stand my ground.

You're the party starting shit and in the wrong. You're the one that needs to stop.

Common courtesy is not to run your mouth on the Internet because your shielded by anonymity. Treat the situation like real life. I am looking you in the eye in front of your face and politely requesting you to Walk away now.

You can choose to be an ass and continue acting rude by not walking away. That's your right. But just imagine what that would entail if you did that in real life. Unfortunate that real consequences aren't enforced on HN. This thread getting flagged already is a big indicator that you crossed the line.

[PrimeMcFly]

> But you're talking shit about me under my thread which my comment is the parent to my face.

So what? I said you were perpetuating a myth and you were. It still not 'your' thread, what kind of childish nonsense is that?

> I've literally told you I don't appreciate your attitude and you're still starting shit.

Because I don't care what you think at all. I was talking to someone else and you decided to insert yourself because of this mistaken belief that it was 'your' thread. Most ridiculous thing I've seen in quite some time.

> I'm not walking from this thread. This topic was started by me so I stand my ground.

This is honestly hilarious. Walk, don't walk, I don't really care. But you have no ownership of the thread or right to tell me to stop replying. Go touch grass.

> Common courtesy is not to run your mouth on the Internet because your shielded by anonymity.

I made valid criticisms. You made a claim, only lazily supported it with a low quality tabloid article, defended perpetuating a false claim and refused to change your stance after I attempted to educate you. That makes you willfully ignorant, and I have no time for you. I will keep replying to you until this conversation runs its course though due to nothing else than curiosity.

> Treat the situation like real life.

In real life I'd ask you not to perpetuate myths or spread misinformation, and call you out if you tried to defend doing so with a crappy blog article as your source.

> You can choose to be an ass and continue acting rude by not walking away. That's your right.

And you can continue coming back trying to claim ownership of the thread and needing to have the last word because I called you out for laziness and intellectual dishonesty.

> But just imagine what that would entail if you did that in real life.

The same result? You complaining and being upset I dared to call you out?

> This thread getting flagged already is a big indicator that you crossed the line.

Actually the comments where I correct you and call you out are upvoted and not flagged at all.

I haven't crossed a line. I told you you were wrong, dismissed your low quality source, asked you to stop perpetuating misinformation, and then in response to someone else provided sources to show just why you were wrong and perpetuating misinformation.

You then tried to claim ownership of the thread and order me to not comment any further which is one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen on HN.

Look. You can admit you were wrong and that you were perpetuating misinformation and just move on, or you can keep needing to have the last word and coming back and trying to defend your behavior be talking about how 'rude' I was, but the more you do the latter, the worse it reflects on you.

[corethree]

>So what? I said you were perpetuating a myth and you were. It still not 'your' thread, what kind of childish nonsense is that?

Please do not say things like that here. It is "my" thread. I opened the topic for discussion. You are free to comment but taking it over with bullshit like this is rude. It is mine in this sense. Do you note how I didn't insult you here and you used the word childish? You need to walk away again.

>Because I don't care what you think at all. I was talking to someone else and you decided to insert yourself because of this mistaken belief that it was 'your' thread. Most ridiculous thing I've seen in quite some time.

If you don't care what people think. You don't belong here. It's actually against the rules here to be rude and say things without care. You'll actually need to leave this entire forum should you continue.

>This is honestly hilarious. Walk, don't walk, I don't really care. But you have no ownership of the thread or right to tell me to stop replying. Go touch grass.

I know you don't care. I'm telling you now, not appreciated at all to laugh in peoples faces and be rude.

>I made valid criticisms. You made a claim, only lazily supported it with a low quality tabloid article, defended perpetuating a false claim and refused to change your stance after I attempted to educate you. That makes you willfully ignorant, and I have no time for you. I will keep replying to you until this conversation runs its course though due to nothing else than curiosity.

You made a counter claim with zero support. Then you purported to cite sources that offered zero information on pig intelligence vs. dog intelligence. Just a bunch of articles and Wikipedia on dog intelligence and how great it is. Everybody knows Dogs are intelligent.. but more intelligent then pigs? You offered nothing. I never said dogs were stupid, your evidence only serves to disprove a point I never made. A bunch of useless off topic evidence that goes nowhere. The point is this: Pigs are more intelligent then dogs.

Additionally all your sources were just as casual and weak as mine. Random internet articles and wikipedia. None of it strengthened your argument because it was both off topic and the same level of quality as my evidence.

Overall your argument was weak and you not only were rude but you violated your own tenets by offering weak and irrational arguments. You even claimed that "you could" accept the fact that pigs were intelligent.

Hey take a look at this, or don't it doesn't matter at this point:

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/8sx4s79c

It's the only scientifically peer reviewed paper offered so far in this thread. The highest offer of available empirical evidence which you repeatedly failed to offer. It didn't need to be offered but since you wanted to go to war on this, I offered it. It describes intelligence tasks where pigs beat dogs. There's more on this topic, it's not well researched but the available evidence points to pigs overall being smarter. You can try to argue against the only scientific article here if you want but there's a salvo of other research studies ready to fire on you once you're done. The popular "myth" perpetuates itself on actual scientific studies which you were unaware about.

>Look. You can admit you were wrong and that you were perpetuating misinformation and just move on, or you can keep needing to have the last word and coming back and trying to defend your behavior be talking about how 'rude' I was, but the more you do the latter, the worse it reflects on you.

I'd rather have the last word. I'm human just like you. I was too lazy to actually dig through the internet to actually find you the raw science behind it. But you pissed me off enough to make me spend the effort.

I'm not even making a pathetic effort to sort of worm my way into being right. It's a given that my point is much more obviously the higher supported theory here. A casual google search confirms it ALONG with the science.

You were being manipulative with your arguments and you know it. Weak sources and a weak thesis as well. You got upvotes only from people who didn't follow a single one of your sources. And you stated you're "I'm open to the possibility that pigs might be smarter than dogs" which is lol. It just shows you couldn't find anything definitive. Such are harsh way to bring the hammer down on me when you're "open" to me being "right".

Do you do this kind of thing in real life? Like when you're not sure about something and someone makes a claim about it, you just attack them out of nowhere and demand solid proof when you're wishy washy about it yourself. Hey it's fine to disagree, maybe next time just say, "I'm not sure there's enough science that confirms that for sure" rather then declaring it a "myth" and then being "open" about it later.

Look man, when I say pigs are smarter then dogs I say it like any human says it. With just a vague knowledge of the science without a hard "absolutely" "100%" pigs are smarter. Any rational human will know that and not rudely just proclaim it to be a myth. The science shows evidence that pigs are smarter. It's not overwhelming evidence but it points to the fact that it is the most likely truth. That level of evidence enough for casual conversation which is what's going on here in this thread which you failed to be socially aware about.

Tell you what. You may be open to me being right, but I'm not open to you being right. I claim there is much more science demonstrating pigs beating dogs on intelligence tasks then there are dogs beating pigs. I'm not wishy washy about shit here.

Now throw in your next wall of text and we can continue on this until you run out of things to say because I'm not just right. I'm obviously right. You're the one trying to scaffold the evidence into a shaky foundation for your claim. Good luck.

Anyway, the main faux paus here isn't "not doing research" or flawed citations or anything like that. You've done plenty of that despite your hard ass claims to the contrary. The main problem here is you're not acting civil. You're acting rude. And you've stated you don't care.

That is Against the rules here and I'm sure if any admin saw you talk this way repeatedly without care you would be banned.

I admit I am defending my last word now. But prior to this I was not defending my last word. I was making a statement. A statement saying I find your attitude offensive and I don't like to converse with you at all and I wanted to set the tone that it must end. That was the point. If it looks bad, so be it, but I did not act with malice which is contrary to what you did here.