[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

Even Apple TV is pretty sluggish on my LG TV. And it sometimes makes my TV crash so I have to reboot it. It's maybe not as bad as the steaming pile of garbage that is Sky-Showtime, but it's got a ways to go before it's comparable to Netflix on my TV. Amazon Prime is pretty terrible on my TV too.

[dangus]

That’s your TV having a shitty processor and WebOS not being the best. Even expensive smart TVs don’t ship with good silicon.

Get something like an Apple TV or Fire TV Cube and you’ll have a better experience. The Apple TV 4K in particular ships with a very powerful processor, it’s far snappier than any other streaming box I’ve tried.

[wodenokoto]

It's been a few years since I let go of my TV, a not new-at-the time, but high-end LG, and I loved WebOS on it. I considered it the best, even better than Apple TV, especially for netflix. The new owner runs it without complaints.

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

Yeah, no shit. Still, Netflix, Plex and Youtube work just fine, so Apple TV should be able to work at least as well. I'm not buying an extra device just to compensate for shitty software, that's silly. I prefer to unsubscribe.

[jprd]

These services aren't run by a company that primarily sells hardware/devices. See iTunes on Windows.

[beeboobaa]

> I'm not buying an extra device just to compensate for shitty software, that's silly

Serious question: Then why did you buy an Apple TV? This is Apple's entire MO. You are expected to replace all your devices every year or two.

[alimbada]

> This is Apple's entire MO. You are expected to replace all your devices every year or two.

As someone who previously was an "anti-fan" of Apple's (we're talking 2000s, early 2010s) for their ridiculous prices (and that still stands for things like the Vision Pro), I've now seen the light (or gone to the dark side if you prefer) and now believe Apple provides better value for money than most of their competition due to the longevity of their devices. I know this is anecdotal and a sample size of one but I'd be curious to see data backing up your claim above.

[overstay8930]

Apple was a rip off luxury brand back in the day if you had a Samsung Fascinate or something. MacBooks were horrible and macOS was annoying to deal with. Now they're the default price/performance choice if you want a decent reliable machine, and iPhones are obviously very good value if you just want a phone that works for as long as possible.

[rijx]

Can attest to this, typing this on a 6 year old iphone 8 plus

[scarface_74]

Yes, that must be why they abandon older hardware and don’t support it long term unlike Android based boxes and built in hardware…

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

I'm talking about the Apple TV streaming service, not the device.

[cj]

Maybe for their other product lines, but not the Apple TV. It’s infrequently updated and they easily last 5 years or more.