[nordsieck]

There's a benefit to terseness. Go's naming conventions are superior to Java's.

APL (and it's many cousins) is a bridge too far for me, but I can see the appeal to having the entire program on a single screen.

[sanderjd]

Agree to (not entirely, but largely) disagree!

It's funny that you used Go as an example. Like 60% of its raison d'être is noticing that more lines of code is often better if each line is simple. And I think it's mostly right about that. Its inscrutable naming conventions are, on the other hand, a poor choice. (Notwithstanding that java's are a poor choice in the opposite direction.)

[hoosieree]

Dijkstra on APL: https://www.jsoftware.com/papers/Dijkstra_Letter.htm

In one short letter he makes an insightful critique yet misses the the point so hard I can practically hear the woosh 42 years later.