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	by anotherhue 880 days ago
	> But Patreon engineer Jason Byttow has said that complying with the VPPA's consent requirement imposes "unnecessary burdens" on Patreon by requiring "substantial engineering work" to build a new consent regime that would ultimately "degrade the user experience." Our privacy is inconvenient for them.

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BLKNSLVR 880 days ago

Additionally, isn't the "Patreon user experience" merely "pay money to selected provider".

I'm admittedly mostly unfamiliar, but how is the user experience degraded? Are they attempting to classify not-as-targetted advertising as a degradation of user experience? If so, they'll never be speaking for me.

There are quite a few laws that are inconvenient to quite a few businesses, but usually those businesses know to say the quiet part quietly.

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lmm 880 days ago

They're saying that asking whether they can share the fact that you watched a given video with Facebook would degrade your user experience. Sounds like the idea of simply not sharing that information with them hasn't occurred to them.

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quantified 880 days ago

If we didn't have all these criminal statutes, quite a few more business models could flourish.

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quantified 880 days ago

It's job security for him. Keeping bridges safe and flying rockets also requires substantial engineering work. I fail to see why the fact that work would need to be done should affect the outcome in any way. Zero reason to make their life convenient in any way.

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BLKNSLVR 880 days ago

A recent Australian Prime Minister did claim legislative power to alter mathematics.

Poor quality sound, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VB3uQHa14g

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justinclift 880 days ago

Not sure why you're trying to push that. :(

It was a smart arse response to a smart arse question.

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BLKNSLVR 880 days ago

> It was a smart arse response to a smart arse question.

Haven't come across that justification before.

If it was a smart arse question, I'd be guessing it was justified in the face of attempts at the Australian government at the time attempting to further their already advanced designs toward creating a surveillance state.

For the sake of clarification, I'm pointing it out as an example of denial-based justification of a virtually untenable position, in two contexts:

One: If the leader of a country would say something like that in public then, hey, make the request to repeal a privacy law, who knows, there may be enough greased palms for this to slide through. Not that I want to give them any ideas.

Two: the person to whom I was replying mentioned engineering challenges of bridge building and rocket science which could be made easier with some legislation that reduces the complexity of maths and physics (if Malcolm is to be believed) - for the sake of humour.

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quantified 880 days ago

Like Indiana's legislation regarding the value of pi?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill]

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justinclift 879 days ago

> Haven't come across that justification before.

You haven't really looked at all then. Go find the video that shows the question as well, rather than the one you have that just shows an out-of-context response.

That'll make it clear.

It has nothing at all to do with anything you're pushing in the rest of your response.

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BLKNSLVR 879 days ago

When a reporter asked Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, “Won’t the laws of mathematics trump the laws of Australia?,” Mr. Turnbull reportedly responded “Well the laws of Australia prevail in Australia, I can assure you of that. The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”

Excerpt from: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/no-the-laws-of-australia-...

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barrysteve 880 days ago

He doesn't say that.

He chooses to relate to Australian law, not maths. It's his job to do that. He is not a mathematician.

It is frustrating watching Muricans balk at a change of topic, by saying that he claims something he didn't.

Anglo culture and American culture really are two different beasts.

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BLKNSLVR 880 days ago

Not quite seeing the distinction you're trying to make:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-laws-of-australia-will-tru...

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/turnbull-war-on-maths