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	by quantified 881 days ago
	It's job security for him. Keeping bridges safe and flying rockets also requires substantial engineering work. I fail to see why the fact that work would need to be done should affect the outcome in any way. Zero reason to make their life convenient in any way.

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BLKNSLVR 881 days ago

A recent Australian Prime Minister did claim legislative power to alter mathematics.

Poor quality sound, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VB3uQHa14g

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justinclift 881 days ago

Not sure why you're trying to push that. :(

It was a smart arse response to a smart arse question.

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BLKNSLVR 881 days ago

> It was a smart arse response to a smart arse question.

Haven't come across that justification before.

If it was a smart arse question, I'd be guessing it was justified in the face of attempts at the Australian government at the time attempting to further their already advanced designs toward creating a surveillance state.

For the sake of clarification, I'm pointing it out as an example of denial-based justification of a virtually untenable position, in two contexts:

One: If the leader of a country would say something like that in public then, hey, make the request to repeal a privacy law, who knows, there may be enough greased palms for this to slide through. Not that I want to give them any ideas.

Two: the person to whom I was replying mentioned engineering challenges of bridge building and rocket science which could be made easier with some legislation that reduces the complexity of maths and physics (if Malcolm is to be believed) - for the sake of humour.

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quantified 881 days ago

Like Indiana's legislation regarding the value of pi?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill]

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justinclift 881 days ago

> Haven't come across that justification before.

You haven't really looked at all then. Go find the video that shows the question as well, rather than the one you have that just shows an out-of-context response.

That'll make it clear.

It has nothing at all to do with anything you're pushing in the rest of your response.

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BLKNSLVR 880 days ago

When a reporter asked Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, “Won’t the laws of mathematics trump the laws of Australia?,” Mr. Turnbull reportedly responded “Well the laws of Australia prevail in Australia, I can assure you of that. The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”

Excerpt from: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/no-the-laws-of-australia-...

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defrost 880 days ago

And .. the context that followed that you omitted:

    what we are seeking to do is to secure their assistance. They have to face up to their responsibility. They can’t just wash their hands of it and say it’s got nothing to do with them," Turnbull said when asked how the encryption should be broken.

I'm no fan of Turnball for many many reasons .. but he was not an idiot about technology and well understood mathematics (for someone not in the field professionally).

As stated above by another commentator he made a smart arse response to a smart arse question, as is intuitively obvious to the meanest intellect, and then clarified that legal steps would be taken to ensure to cooperation of the major invested actors.

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barrysteve 881 days ago

He doesn't say that.

He chooses to relate to Australian law, not maths. It's his job to do that. He is not a mathematician.

It is frustrating watching Muricans balk at a change of topic, by saying that he claims something he didn't.

Anglo culture and American culture really are two different beasts.

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BLKNSLVR 881 days ago

Not quite seeing the distinction you're trying to make:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-laws-of-australia-will-tru...

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/turnbull-war-on-maths

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2140747-laws-of-mathema...