Fair enough. Vivek put in a phenomenal effort but it wasn't in the cards for 2024. Now it's Trump vs Biden, unless the latter croaks or the former is assassinated.
Yeah, I think Vivek did it well. He can always come back next time. As long as he doesn't say crazy shit or get bitter from here, I think he looks strong, and he did a good job. I don't think Trump would pick him as VP because he sees how ambitious Vivek is, not to denigrate Trump it could just be an issue. But he could fade, or help in background both would be OK.
Did he? Like what? I've been watching a few Vivek town halls and it seems ok. Which ones have you seen that were crazy shit? Please tell more, I am interested.
But just so you know, crazy shit above means: "Shit that would be crazy unstrategic regarding his future political ambitions". Like, he has significant support right now within Trump base, so crazy shit would be things that alienate or destroy that. As long as he doesn't do that, he's fairly strong, if not successful in any nomination, this time around.
On the whole tho this comment thread went just about as you could have expected it would have done, on HN, sadly. Ugh...I don't mean the flag, that's to be expected, HN dislikes politics...but I mean there's no discussion: it's just 1 pole, another pole, no common ground, no relationship, people can't talk.
I'd hope US politics was more discussable 8 years after 2016...If people can't discuss, that's not democracy...
Nothing about me responding will be fruitful nor would it be liked by HN (not fellow readers but the mods. Hi Dang ;-)
Generally I’m abhorred by all this America first rhetoric and all this idolatry of strong men pontificating and puffing out their chests like military dictators.
> Nothing about me responding will be fruitful nor would it be liked by HN (not fellow readers but the mods. Hi Dang ;-)
Who cares? Don't run away after making a claim without evidence. The parent comment wants strong evidence to your claim. Don't say "Just Google it" or "Ask ChatGPT" as the burden of proof is on you.
This is you:
Claim:
> He already said “crazy shit”.
The request of evidence:
> Did he? Like what?
You:
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This is the sort of discussion that happens when one is asked to substantiate their claims and is unable to do so. In fact by you doing this, you already broke the guidelines anyway. [0]
> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. [0]
I get what you mean. It can come off in a bad way, but at the same time any time anybody gets proud or feels satisfied, it's natural body language--male or female. Try it yourself: think of a good memory from your life, embody it, give yourself up to the memory...then... feel your spine straighten, and a smile rise to your face.
There's a difference, but it's also very similar. The world doesn't have to be a place where there's nothing to feel happy about or proud of! :)
But also, the easy analogy between the actual dictators of the past and the entertainment politicians of today...is made too loosely I think. And that drive to label and mislabel, is a classic tool of propagandists, which are highly associated the things those labelers are apparently also against (ie, dictators, authoritarianism, puritanism, monoculture, punishing of dissent, etc).
I don't think it's your fault. It's the weird thing about today where it's like we can't talk about anything, even of these (think about it, fundamentally) minor differences. Heavy sigh....