[graphe]

You don't need to tell me you're vegan, yours is indistinguishable from someone who likes the propaganda.

Merit why it and other fake diet documentaries like super size me are legitimate. They are all grifters and propaganda, from the full carnivore to the full vegetables, most of them are vegan and vegans are commonly known to die of malnutrition.

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

> the vegan influencers are commonly known to die of malnutrition.

Can you provide some backing for this statement? A quick search shows a ton of news articles about one specific influencer who died last August, but I didn't find much that suggested a trend as you indicate.

[graphe]

Sorry let me amend my statement, I am against a diet that promotes malnutrition which is caused by influencers that don't know about nutrition. Deaths are commonly attributed to vegans from this propaganda, and they are common not a trend of influencers but a trend in general. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/ve...

Anyone who promotes this unhealthy propaganda should be treated with suspicion. The mockumentary propaganda was shot in the style of a documentary funded by vegan companies. So surprised by what we saw though fake science.

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

You put "but a trend in general" in front of your link, which describes one specific event.

Your arguments might land better if you put out some evidence of a trend. So far you've implied a trend among vegan influencers, abandonded that point when it was pointed out that one data point isn't much of a trend, moved the goalposts to say it's a trend among the general population of vegan people, and then linked an article with a single data point. There's plenty of isolated examples of non-vegans starving their children to death, so an isolated example of a vegan starving their child is not particularly useful or informative.

For the record, I fucking love steak, I'm not coming at this from the vegan perspective. I do have a pet peeve against overly broad statements, though.

[graphe]

Vegans having malnutrition is more common than it is not. This vegan killed their child giving them vegan food. This is what is happening on a broad scale. The mother being careful had fed them a diet that's killed them. You didn't read the article; she starved him by carefully feeding him vegan food.

[callalex]

If it was on a broad scale then surely it would be easy for you to provide some evidence after being asked nicely 3 separate times?

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

Again, non-vegans neglect the hell out of their children all the time. This person clearly criminally neglected their child, and was arrested and convicted.

You're not showing a trend with your evidence, but you are showing your prejudices with how you present the evidence you are bringing.

(late reply because lol, lmao if you comment on HN when not working)

[graphe]

Forcing your children to eat only vegetables is not neglect it's abuse and causes death.

[octopoc]

Not influencers, but I personally know a couple vegans who have brittle bones and one who is going blind (albeit she is in her 60s I think). Also these are vegans who cook almost everything from scratch and probably could qualify for a PHD in nutrition based on the amount of research they are continually doing.

The reality is you can have a somewhat healthy diet for a single generation on a vegan diet, if you source ingredients from all over the world and basically stretch the variety of plants you eat to the maximum, but if you lived 100 years ago you would have quickly become severely malnourished. And we don't yet know what the impact will be over multiple generations.

[callalex]

Jainism has existed for a lot longer than that, and they’re doing just fine.

[graphe]

Which isn't vegan in any way.