[rickreynoldssf]

This really shouldn't be a shock for Netflix employees. According to Netflix's culture page (https://jobs.netflix.com/culture) They are a team, not a family.

When you're on a team you know you can be cut at any moment. It's ruthless over there and the recruiters will make sure you're aware of that early in the interview process. Netflix was never known as a good place to work which is why they pay outrageous salaries and the average employment length is a little over a year.

[nobodyandproud]

At least Netflix is upfront.

At my “WLB friendly” company, they’re addicted to cost-cutting by off-shoring. Less pay but stability was the draw.

As soon as the tech-hiring boom was over they started finding ways to gas-light:

- If you’re not delivering/under-delivering, it’s certainly a red-flag.

- If you’re “overworking” that’s a red-flag.

- If you’re phenomenal and young, they’ll keep you and look the other way.

- If you’re off-shore, they’ll also look the other way.

- And raise concerns, and I get red flagged (honestly, I don’t have the right skillset here).

Source: Watching my US team slowly get dismantled, while my manager says otherwise.

[oumua_don17]

>> At my “WLB friendly” company, they’re addicted to cost-cutting by off-shoring. Less pay but stability was the draw

Is that a past market leader semiconductor company now struggling to get it's act together?

[nobodyandproud]

Fintech.

[cableshaft]

Company "families" can be cut at any moment in a state with at will employment also (and they absolutely will lay you off too). They just gaslight you into thinking it won't happen so that you'll stay loyal as long as they do want you to stay.

[SirMaster]

Sure, they can. But there are actually good family companies out there that deeply care about their employees.

Not saying they are common, but they do exist.

Just an example. My dad who works for a small construction company as a steel detailer, when all the construction work was put on hold during covid, the company told the employees to go out and find places looking for volunteer workers, and the company would pay them their normal salary to do the volunteer work.

They have shown time and time again through the years (and he's been with them basically his whole professional life) that they do everything they can to help their employees.

[camhart]

> But there are actually good family companies out there that deeply care about their employees.

Doing what's best for the company long term is generally what's best for employees in the long term. Sometimes layoffs are what's best. Companies that deeply care about their employees will still have layoffs.

[nemo44x]

I think it's great they lay it out. I never understood the whole "we're a family" thing that so many companies, especially startups, pretend to do. Netflix is open that they want the best players they possibly can so they can achieve the highest level of greatness they can. They want people who want to put in the effort to achieve this. This may not be for everyone and that's OK. But at least they are upfront about it. Champions have different mindsets and have goals that require so much effort.

[Toutouxc]

Wow, that culture page reads like something from Black Mirror. But I guess I'd also endure a lot of stuff for a year of outrageous salary, then peace out to a beach somewhere.

[3D30497420]

Oh wow, yeah.

I love this one: "Selflessness. You seek what is best for Netflix, not yourself or your team". Sounds like something a cult leader would have you commit to.

Plus, that page is insanely long.

[cloverich]

Its intended to be a statement against the self serving politics present at many companies; it doesnt mean be a slave to netflix and forgo self care or anything. Just a reasonable north star: You are employed by the company to act in its best interest.

[fnfjfk]

This is an “everyone can win” situation. Netflix leadership could align incentives so that doing the best thing for Netflix is also the selfish thing that maximizes your performance review, bonus, and RSUs.

Statements like this imply that doing the best thing for the company won’t be rewarded in the best way for individuals. Why not?

[ecnahc515]

> Statements like this imply that doing the best thing for the company won’t be rewarded in the best way for individuals. Why not?

I think part of it is that they believe you are compensated well enough that you don't need extra rewarding.

[lowbloodsugar]

It is fucking insane if they thing that is actually how it works, though. Start-ups might work like that, because at that point the people and the company are effectively the same. But any company more than a year old becomes filled with people who are maximizing their own net worth. And why would it be any different?

[tech_ken]

Any for-profit company is going to expect the same from their employees, even if they don't say it; it is the nature of contract employment. Any company which tells you that they want you to balance their needs against literally anything else is lying to you. They may not have the competence to detect or act on you doing this balancing, but at its core the company wants something else. You forget this at your own peril.

[antisthenes]

Cults typically don't pay 400k+ total comp.

For 400k, I can look the other way for a couple of years to build up a safety net, then peace out to a company with a better work-life balance.

I imagine that's what a lot of people are doing with FAANGs.

[ipaddr]

Until you realize most people stay less then a year and most of that money goes to taxes and rent if working in person.

Cults and FAANGs offer a similiar vision of a rosey future that will not come to pass for the average person.

[saati]

After all the times I saw office politics make the product much worse for our users, I see that as a good thing.

[mrbonner]

Isn't that better than the virtue signaling from all companies out there?

[popularrecluse]

Yeah guess they are self-selecting for the kind of person that will read through that drivel.

[manojlds]

Only difference from that and others is they are upfront about it. Which is always better.

[karmasimida]

Family is about protecting the bottom line

Company is about the upside

Ofc they are different.

[SoftTalker]

Many families are pretty fucked up too, to be honest.