[virtual_void]

No, that tort specifically relates to depriving someone of, otherwise damaging their property.

We've agreed it's not stealing. We've agreed that not all piracy is immoral, for some definition of immoral.

I think we can agree that this specific tort does not apply.

Which specific thing in the social contract, some simple verb such as "stealing" are you equating piracy with. Then we'll have something concrete to discuss I think.

[WendyTheWillow]

We don't have to discuss anything if you don't like, you replied to me.

Also that's not what trespass means. You don't "deprive" someone of their land when you walk on it without permission, and you don't "deprive" someone of their song when you pirate it.

[virtual_void]

Apologies, I wasn’t suggesting i was closing down the conversation. I am trying to find a specific thing in the social contract that you feel is violated. We agree it’s not stealing it seems.

Re trespass, that’s not what the specific tort you referred to means. A chattel is a moveable form of property. You’re talking about the colloquial version of trespass. Happy to talk about that conception of it.

Is the idea of trespass the specific thing you feel is being violated in the social contract? If not, what is?

[WendyTheWillow]

I don't enjoy your tone; it's not what I feel that matters. What matters is what is or isn't the case.

[virtual_void]

I was simply using the word feel as a synonym for the word believe. No injury intended.

You still have not answered the very simple question though, and i might be a bit slow off the mark but i don’t see it answered elsewhere in this thread.

[WendyTheWillow]

I have in a dozen other places, forgive me if I don't trust you enough to repeat myself yet again.

[virtual_void]

No. No you haven’t, at least not a singular unambiguous answer.

A lack of trust is not a reasonable reason to refuse to state a single verb or noun. Trust isn’t really a part of this - we are strangers on the internet.

I don’t believe that you are engaging with the discussion honestly because this is an extremely simple question to answer.

I believe this is because you have realised that you cannot defend the position you have taken.

It’s been an interesting discussion.

[Capricorn2481]

They are being extremely courteous to you, what tone are you even speaking of? Any perceived hostility is completely made up in your head.

[WendyTheWillow]

It's a common tactic used to diminish the value of a person's argument to equate it to their feelings or opinions, rather than accept the argument as strong. Further, he's asking a question that's easily answered by actually reading what I've written.

So when you look at a comment that clearly a) is intended to diminish your position and b) seems to completely ignore what you've actually written, it's not "perceived hostility" it's simply bad faith engagement.