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by jsyang00 924 days ago
Wouldn't this incentivize Dasher's to... take longer to deliver?

This whole model feels screwed up to me.

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Indeed, it would be better if doordash would just hire full time employees. And vet them before hiring with a regular interview process. Instead of constant punitive surveillance with the threat of instant unemployment.

Can you imagine if your dev job was like this? Picking up jobs to write a single function. And if youre too slow, or one too many tests fail you get sacked.

The “problem” is that many (most?) delivery cyclists in NYC aren’t legally allowed to work, so this option would be jeopardizing a large part of their workforce (bad for DoorDash) while also being bad for the workers themselves (who aren’t exactly swimming in job options). I’m not making a value judgement here, just weighing in with a tradeoff to consider.

    many (most?) delivery cyclists in NYC aren’t legally allowed to work
Woah. Are you saying these people are illegal immigrants, or don't have a work visa? I never heard this before. That is a bold claim. Do you have any evidence to share? I tried Googling, but I couldn't find anything.
>Can you imagine if your dev job was like this?

Mine is. We have stack ranking and it's a living nightmare.

Weekly or monthly stack ranking? I doubt it. Probably annual or twice-yearly reviews. And how much of the stack is released for poor performance during each review? 5/10/15%? Still: Nothing compared to being a DoorDash delivery person.
I deliver for door dash as a side gig (supplemental income). If drivers try to milk the system and take an exaggerated amount of time to deliver orders, those drivers will not receive as many offers for orders (messes up their algorithm in the long term). I think the new model encourages people to drive safely and not rush and risk getting into an accident just because they work on tips and are trying to rush through traffic to get their money worth/ time worth for labor. It also does not put pressure on the consumer to tip since the delivery drivers will earn a livable wage. Employers should pay their workers a fair wage, not the consumer.
... or incentivize them stop instead of running over pedestrians, ride on roads/bikelanes instead of sidewalks.

I know I stay the hell out of the way of by-the-minute "communal" rental cars.

And as an additional incentive, DoorDash has decided to fuck with tips!
Thanks for the info. Can you share more details? Tipping a delivery person always seems bizarre to me. Any reasonable society would just pay a better wage, but instead, the US prefers slave wages plus "tips" to maaaaaaaaybe make a living wage.
They reduced the default tip amount, hide tip information from delivery drivers and moved the tipping to after the order, all together ensuring that tipping happens less & for lower amounts.
Only if you ignore tips.