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by lern_too_spel 956 days ago
Unlikely. One reason Google Cloud is so terrible is that nobody in Google actually uses Google Cloud. It used to be that every time I mentioned this, somebody would jump in and say, "Well actually, Google Domains runs on Google Cloud," and we'd discuss whether Google Domains was a business critical part of Google. https://support.google.com/domains/answer/13689670?hl=en
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amf12 956 days ago
> Unlikely. One reason Google Cloud is so terrible is that nobody in Google actually uses Google Cloud.

Well, actually, Google Cloud is just an abstraction on top of internal Google infra, so this isn't the right question. So, it depends on what you want to infer/compare.

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lern_too_spel 956 days ago
> Well, actually, Google Cloud is just an abstraction on top of internal Google infra

I didn't say otherwise. Of course Google Cloud runs on internal Google infrastructure. They wouldn't have an entirely different stack to build Google Cloud on. The problem is that Googlers don't use Google Cloud.

Amazonians use AWS. https://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse452/23wi/papers...

Microsofties use Azure. https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-moves-closer-to-runn...

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danielmarkbruce 956 days ago
It is the right question. It's the right question because Google doesn't dogfood Google Cloud like they should/could. Dogfooding a bunch of stuff at a lower level of abstraction isn't the same thing.
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tdullien 956 days ago
Xoogler here. GCP was not an abstraction on Borg when I was there. GKE isn't either.

So up until late 2018 when I left, very little of Cloud ran on "proper" Google3 infra. This may have shifted slightly (cloud has been fishing for good Google infra to externalize a lot), but in general cloud!=google3 infra.

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milesward 956 days ago
Lots of stuff inside Alphabet runs on GCP. And yes, Google Domains pisses me off.
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lern_too_spel 956 days ago
If anything important ran on Google Cloud, you can bet we'd see a blog post from Google Cloud marketing about that. Yes, many of the money losing side bets from the non-Google companies under the Alphabet umbrella use Google Cloud. That's only because they want the optionality to spin them off if by some miracle any of them are ever worth anything. If they were part of Google, they would use internal infrastructure. If they weren't under Alphabet, they would use AWS or Azure like everyone else.
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