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by amf12 947 days ago
> Unlikely. One reason Google Cloud is so terrible is that nobody in Google actually uses Google Cloud.

Well, actually, Google Cloud is just an abstraction on top of internal Google infra, so this isn't the right question. So, it depends on what you want to infer/compare.
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lern_too_spel 947 days ago
> Well, actually, Google Cloud is just an abstraction on top of internal Google infra

I didn't say otherwise. Of course Google Cloud runs on internal Google infrastructure. They wouldn't have an entirely different stack to build Google Cloud on. The problem is that Googlers don't use Google Cloud.

Amazonians use AWS. https://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse452/23wi/papers...

Microsofties use Azure. https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-moves-closer-to-runn...

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danielmarkbruce 947 days ago
It is the right question. It's the right question because Google doesn't dogfood Google Cloud like they should/could. Dogfooding a bunch of stuff at a lower level of abstraction isn't the same thing.
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tdullien 947 days ago
Xoogler here. GCP was not an abstraction on Borg when I was there. GKE isn't either.

So up until late 2018 when I left, very little of Cloud ran on "proper" Google3 infra. This may have shifted slightly (cloud has been fishing for good Google infra to externalize a lot), but in general cloud!=google3 infra.

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