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by jpdb 973 days ago
I really wish oxide had a Homelab/consumer centric offering!

Spec wise, some low power systems like an Intel NUC, LattePanda Sigma, or Zimaboard. You could fit 3/4 of them in a single 1u with a shared power supply. They could even offer a full 1u with desktop grade chips on the same sleds.

I have thought about building one myself, but it's a large investment of time that I can't seem to find lately.

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It would be great if Oxide had something like Canonical's "Orange Box"/cloud-in-a-box for homelabs, evaluation, training (in the management bits) - and hobby work loads!

https://canonical.com/blog/jumpstart-training-with-the-orang...

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/hands...

I'd imagine they'll get to that eventually, these types of companies generally start at enterprise level because that's the most profitable and requires closing smaller numbers of deals. Once the product is proven and their support infrastructure is in place they can go for other market segments to try and maximize revenue
It's not just about maximizing revenue, it's also about getting it into developer hands early (homelabs, side projects, college students, etc) so they can become familiar with it, and become an advocate for it within their company. Cloudflare is a good example of this.
I also like Tailscale as an example of this. Really great platform for devs to jump on for home labs and build experience.
Even just a medium business offering would be great. I'd love to not have to use Dell or HP gear-- anything to get away from the cobbled-together stack of legacy IBM PC compatibility and third-party ODM/OEM stuff glue-and-taped together by the vendor.
I am missing how AWS/GCP/Azure does not solve this for you.

Price point?

On prem. Reliable and inexpensive network connectivity they has any resemblance to a 10G LAN doesn't exist where I am.

I work with some businesses who need very, very reliable, high-bandwidth, and low latency connectivity to their data. The amortized cost of on-prem beats the cost of any off-prem offering as soon as the cost of the necessary connectivity is factoted-in.

AWS Outposts is the solution. I like Oxide but people seem to be blind to the actual competition when they focus on Dell as the competitor. AWS has been shipping Outposts racks for years. All prices are public on their website and you can order it today. Nearly every configuration is sub-$500k. Fully managed and AWS supports the entire stack; no buck-passing among vendors, same as Oxide.
I’m not sure where his customers are, but Outpost up/downlinks are supposed to to be at least 1gbit, and they don’t behave well in situations where the latency to the paired region is high. EBS lazy loading blocks is great in region but awful when your ping is 300ms.
You can use EBS Local Snapshots, can't you? It stores in your Outpost S3 storage.
Isn't that exactly what this Oxide rack is for?

Your not going to find any serious hardware product with reliability guarantees, in writing, for much less than half a million anyways.

I'm talking shops who spend $200-$500K on servers and storage, not north of $1M (which is where this Oxide gear lives). Something like a 1/4 scale Oxide rack, perhaps.
I work at SoftIron, another startup in this space. Our HyperCloud product might be interesting for you. I'm not in sales, so I can't comment on the prices, but I'd guess we're much more competitive since you don't actually need to buy an entire rack of our gear at a time.

That said, where this product-space gets tough is actually scaling it down. It's pretty challenging to create something that is remotely stable/functional in a homelab (space/power/money) budget. Three servers and a switch would probably be the bare minimum. We (and I'm sure Oxide :) scale up like a dream.

This sounds like Synology to me.
Unfortunately they are not planning home lab things anytime soon, per a recent podcast episode [0].

If you want to play around with their Hubris OS: "You wanna buy an STM32H753 eval board. You can download Hubris, and then you’ve got – you’ve got an Oxide computer. You have it for 20 bucks.”

[0] https://changelog.com/friends/8

Maybe somebody can help me find the $20 one, but the one I can see is $460

https://estore.st.com/en/stm32h753i-eval2-cpn.html

Look for the "Nucleo" boards rather than full-fledged eval kits, e.g. https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/nucleo-h743zi.html is $26.
I don't know if this is a reputable source in any way but a quick search shows this: https://www2.mouser.com/c/?processor%20series=STM32H753
Same here!

I’ve not personally used it, but their stack of software is open source, and according to some commenters in the thread, super high quality.

Not 1U but perhaps a box design that isn’t noisy like a pizza box server.

Don’t know if oxide would want or be able to compete in the low cost market but a bigger a more expensive desktop/workstation as a mini homelab cloud could be a great option to get people trained on the oxide platform.

seconded. it would provide an on-ramp to get familiar with the software without forking over 500k