[gambiting]

Doing the background check after the offer is fine, it's insane that they do it after the candidate already starts the new job. So what, I leave my current job to come work for you, and in the first week you tell me "sorry you failed our background check" and let me go? Who the F would ever agree to this kind of risk?

>>8. End of first week, we occasionally have to let someone go on background issues

Yeah, that's bonkers.

[closeparen]

We're not talking like government security clearance here. If you have some major legal or financial issue in your life then maybe it depends what exactly the BGC turns up or how it's adjudicated. If not, there's basically zero chance it's going to affect anything. Just a formality from the candidate's perspective.

[gambiting]

If it's just a formality, why not do it before you start the job then?

[closeparen]

If it’s just a formality, why would you delay the new hire’s start by several weeks while it’s pending?

[gambiting]

As an employer you wouldn't - but I don't understand how any employee agrees to starting before it's complete.

[closeparen]

You already know whether you have a criminal record or financial catastrophe. If you do, maybe you need to wait and see what they think of it. If you don’t, there is no chance of a problem.

[indymike]

This is normal for non-tech employers. It is novel in tech, but not something that is bonkers in other sectors. We're able to have developers on the payroll three-four weeks before offers are out by competitors.

[gambiting]

I wonder where you find developers desperate enough to accept such conditions - I'm not sure I'd want to work with them.

[indymike]

This has never been a problem, except when someone is currently employed and is leaving a job to take one at our company. Right now, there's a lot of really good talent that does not have this issue.

[gambiting]

>>except when someone is currently employed and is leaving a job to take one at our company.

And in that case you do the check before they start with you, yes?

[indymike]

Of course.

[yreg]

In that case it seems like all of the criticism in this thread is moot.