[brahbrah]

The explanation I’ve always heard for why New Zealand was settled by Polynesians so late is that they preferred to start their voyages against the currents when they were fresh so that they wouldn’t have to fight the currents on their way back if they weren’t able to find any new lands to rest and recharge

[teruakohatu]

Kiwi here, I haven't heard that before. New Zealand is very isolated and far south. Polynesian explorers went from the North to the South, so New Zealand was last.

I am unsure why there wasn't earlier immigration from Australia, possibly technological or cultural. Australia is huge, so maybe there wasn't population or resource motivation to explore and settle new lands.

[masklinn]

> I am unsure why there wasn't earlier immigration from Australia, possibly technological or cultural.

Indigenous Australians were not mariners, they reached australia by island hopping, and at a time when the sea levels were even lowers and thus the distances between islands were lower (Tasmania was a peninsula at the time).

While NZ is close to Australia by air, the Tasman sea is 1700km of open unforgiving ocean. This is not a distance you can reasonably cross as a people with little history of navigation, or even a lot of it. Scandinavia to Iceland is 2/3rds that distance and Iceland was only colonised in the 9th century, by a reasonably maritime culture (mid-era norse).

Indigenous Australians never reached New Caledonia either even though it’s much closer to Australia (~1200km), as far as I know the earliest arrivals were circa 1500~1000BCE at the earliest and from the other side (the Lapita reached New Caledonia from through).

[dieselgate]

Regarding sailing the Tasman Sea the 1998 Sydney-Hobart race is notable:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Sydney_to_Hobart_Yacht_...

[masklinn]

“From through” should be “from Vanuatu” or “through Vanuatu”, sorry about that.

[mkl]

It was more west to east, and from the central west-east path, north and south: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Ch...

NZ, Easter Island, and Hawaii are most recent.

[guidedlight]

Indigenous Australians are strongly culturally linked to the land. They weren’t a sea faring people, unlike the Polynesians.

They did have boats (dugouts), but they weren’t suited for the ocean.

[defrost]

Bark canoes are not dugouts

https://australian.museum/learn/cultures/atsi-collection/cul...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Canoes

Also indigenous to the Sahul

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torres_Strait_Islanders

who lived on islands and travelled between PNG and Queensland, Australia but didn't venture south past the Great Barrier Reef and to New ZEaland - but did have the boats and seafaring skills.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makassar_people

who lived in (modern) Indonesia but routinely traded and fished between Northern Australia and China

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trepanging

again, they never (to current knowledge) travelled around and past the Great Barrier Reef.

[masklinn]

Sounds like largely coastal navigation, with some longer hops, a pretty different beast from the open water austronesian (/ Melanesian / Polynesian) navigation.