[rybosworld]

This is better than what they announced originally but it doesn't cure the breach of trust.

I have no doubt that as long John R. and Tomar B. continue to run the show, that the company will behave unethically again in the future.

[rybosworld]

Also, there are still hints of them trying to play this off as a misunderstanding rather than what it really was: a predatory pricing scheme and an attempt to retroactively change ToS.

"When we first introduced the Runtime Fee policy, we used the term “installs” which the community found to be unclear so we’re using the term "initial engagement" as the unit of measure."

The community did not find this unclear. The original pricing scheme was very straightforward about developers being charged multiple times for a user that reinstalls a game, or install it across multiple devices.

This is Unity trying to rewrite history so they don't seem like the bad guys.

[flutas]

> This is Unity trying to rewrite history so they don't seem like the bad guys.

Yup, even going so far as to rewrite the FAQ and pretend they never said the initial answer, it only being noted as "(Updated, Sept 14)"[0]

For full context, the original Q/A was

> Q: If a user reinstalls/redownloads a game / changes their hardware, will that count as multiple installs?

> A: Yes. The creator will need to pay for all future installs. The reason is that Unity doesn’t receive end-player information, just aggregate data.

and has since been edited to

> Q: If a user reinstalls/redownloads a game, will that count as multiple installs?

> A: We are not going to charge a fee for reinstalls. The spirit of this program is and has always been to charge for the first install and we have no desire to charge for the same person doing ongoing installs.

> (Updated, Sep 14)

> Q: Do installs of the same game by the same user across multiple devices count as different installs?

> A: Yes - we treat different devices as different installs.

> (Updated, Sep 14)

[0]: https://forum.unity.com/threads/unity-plan-pricing-and-packa...

[rybosworld]

It's sort of surprising that they would try to act as if the plan was never to charge for multiple installs.

By lying about the situation so transparently, it's clear to me that this is nothing more than damage control, and that the loss of trust does not deserve to be earned back.

[shoemakersteve]

Honestly. They want to earn back people's trust, so they figure the best way to do that is with good ol' gaslighting. Thing is, it'll probably work. At least to some extent. The irony is actually kind of funny.

[DonHopkins]

Here's where a professional NFT shilling tech influencer tried to carry the water for Unity by parroting their gaslighting that developers were bitchy little children who "misunderstood" the announcement, and the NFT shill's followers chimed in with how stupid and childish and demanding game developers are.

https://www.facebook.com/robert.tercek/posts/pfbid0RPPNvecme...

Including un-ironic replies like this one commenting "some insight into what the gamer peasants are talking about" and quoting one game developer's factual reaction, to which the NFT shill replied by calling it "unhinged conspiratorial speculating that poisons the whole atmosphere".

https://www.facebook.com/robert.tercek/posts/pfbid0RPPNvecme...

I took the NFT shill to task on that, with quotes and links and receipts. I pointed out that he and Unity were the ones "poisoning the whole atmosphere" by gaslighting, calling developers "confused" when they actually understood all too well, and if anyone was "poisoning the whole atmosphere" first and foremost, it was John Riccitiello literally and publically calling game developers "some of the biggest fucking idiots".

https://www.pocketgamer.biz/interview/79190/unity-ironsource...

Twice the NFT shill snarkily blamed game developers for the death threat. First he baselessly accused game developers of "often" making death threats, then he gleefully berated game developers for not condemning it (which they actually did, but he didn't bother to notice), demanding they condemn it without actually condemning it himself, when it was actually a Unity employee who made the death threat, not a game developer:

"Game developers often find colorful ways of making their disappointment known."

https://www.facebook.com/robert.tercek/posts/pfbid0RPPNvecme...

"I notice that none of game developers who shared their righteous indignation last week had the courage to speak up and condemn the cowards who phoned in death threats to Unity offices. Keep it classy, game developers."

https://www.facebook.com/robert.tercek/posts/pfbid0RPPNvecme...

>Here are the Godot folks, who have greatly benefited from this fiasco through no fault of their own, condemning the bomb threat, and proving you wrong. No, Robert Tercek, you are wrong when you blame game developers for the bomb threat with no evidence, when the police say it was a Unity employee, and when you falsely claim that game developers "OFTEN find colorful ways of making their disappointment known" like making bomb threats.

>Godot Engine @godotengine

>We extend our sincere solidarity and support to the Unity workers. The recent reactions have left us profoundly disappointed. Threats of violence should have no place in the gamedev community.

https://twitter.com/godotengine/status/1702413121086705951

The truth behind the Unity "Death Threats":

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/16j21jg/the_truth_...

>Update: San Francisco police told Polygon that officers responded to Unity’s San Francisco office “regarding a threats incident.” A “reporting party” told police that “an employee made a threat towards his employer using social media.” The employee that made the threat works in an office outside of California, according to the police statement.

The PacMan Fever / NFT Shilling thread:

https://www.facebook.com/robert.tercek/posts/pfbid0RPPNvecme...