[whyagaintango]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case

Detaining does not happen in US but they just get shot by LEO.

A lot of black community will tell you they are improperly taken/shot in for trivial infractions.

Tell me one instance in RU whereLEO just shoot unarmed civilian for minor road traffic stop.

David Miranda was detained at Heathrow:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miranda_(politician)

While I understand US is better than RU,CN they are not that far ahead.

Nit pick is OK but defending CIA is hopeless. Ask amnesty they will tell you more cases.

[Danjoe4]

I would not consider USA LEO illegally detaining or using excessive force comparable to the Kremlin ordering the arrest of a dissident's family members. One is an individual acting on ignorance, racism, or poor training while the other is a concerted regime effort to maintain control by scaring potential dissidents. The message being "even if you escape punishment we'll go after your family".

[gmerc]

Children separated from parents at the border may disagree with your notion of non family punishment.

“My country is less bad than your country” is a fun game, but at some point it does require a very large amount of cognitive dissonance to stay ahead of the game. Especially when the country is standing with one foot in a perpetual white supremacist coup

[ethanbond]

Children who cross the border illegally are also breaking the law. A law that every country on the planet has. The punitive familial separation was absolutely atrocious and I hope people go to prison for it, but it’s nowhere close to “my son said something mean about POTUS on the internet, now I’m being detained.”

[Aeolun]

> Tell me one instance in RU whereLEO just shoot unarmed civilian for minor road traffic stop.

Hard to compare without reading russian news, and even then, I feel it would be more normalized there.