[Danjoe4]

I would not consider USA LEO illegally detaining or using excessive force comparable to the Kremlin ordering the arrest of a dissident's family members. One is an individual acting on ignorance, racism, or poor training while the other is a concerted regime effort to maintain control by scaring potential dissidents. The message being "even if you escape punishment we'll go after your family".

[gmerc]

Children separated from parents at the border may disagree with your notion of non family punishment.

“My country is less bad than your country” is a fun game, but at some point it does require a very large amount of cognitive dissonance to stay ahead of the game. Especially when the country is standing with one foot in a perpetual white supremacist coup

[ethanbond]

Children who cross the border illegally are also breaking the law. A law that every country on the planet has. The punitive familial separation was absolutely atrocious and I hope people go to prison for it, but it’s nowhere close to “my son said something mean about POTUS on the internet, now I’m being detained.”