[jph]

If you're there, shelter in place, and listen to people who are more experienced. This helps the medics.

Typically many medical issues are straightforward to triage and treat with field kits. Then the medics ask the person's friends to drive the person to Reno for more in-depth care.

Examples in my experience are twisted ankles, broken arms, alcohol sickness, dehydration, cardiac events, infections, lost prescriptions, overdoses, electrocutions, eye scratches, falls from heights, power tool slips, cold exposure, and of course burns.

This year, it turns out the timing of the rain makes for new kinds of challenges for the medics, because they're unable to use many of the transport vehicles that are akin to golf carts. And the medics are currently unable to refer people to Reno.

In a city of 70K+ people who planned for 5 days on average, now stuck for 3 more days because of the rain, estimate 50%+ more medical issues. And no way currently to drive to Reno.

In parallel, some generators will run out of gas supplies, some portas and bathrooms will run out of supplies and servicing, some heaters will run out of propane, etc. This combination tends to make people uneasy and somewhat irrational.

This is why shelter in place is important: it helps reduce accidents and injuries, and helps people to feel calm and think clearly. Help the medics and volunteers by staying put, being more careful than usual, and helping people as you can.

The advice to conserve supplies, and keep warm, is not because the whole city is likely to run out or freeze-- it's because medics want to minimize people wandering around the city seeking supplies, and want to keep people in good physical health and good mental health.

[jeremyt]

That is not a counterpoint. Counterpoint to what?

Not sure where I said "don't shelter in place". Not sure where I said "don't listen to people more experienced".

All I said is that nobody is going to starve or die of dehydration because they ran out of food/water. I stand behind that.

[jph]

When I wrote counterpoint, I meant to your opening "Folks, the article is breathless and ridiculous" and closing ":rolleyes:" because those sound (to me) like shallow dismissals. And felt (to me) like you were downplaying safety measures.

I'll delete my counterpoint word. My comment focuses on safety measures.

[Johnny555]

I don't understand your point? The article sounds reasonable:

"If you are in BRC, conserve food and water, shelter in a warm space,” warned festival organizers according to the Reno Gazette Journal. The news site reported that 73,000 people (a larger population than the city of Santa Cruz) are currently at the festival."

Which sounds like a reasonable reminder to not dump your water jugs and toss your remaining food in trash bags when you're packing up your camp because you may be there a few days longer than expected.

[thih9]

I also thought your point is to disregard safety measures. Perhaps because your original comment says that the article is ridiculous; and the article, sensationalized or not, advises to “conserve food and water, shelter in a warm space”.

[jeremyt]

But I didn't say that. You just made that assumption.

Just because the article is ridiculous does not mean I disagree with every single thing in there. I just think it's ridiculous, particularly in tone.

And also, I stand behind saying there's plenty of food and water. So, by all means "conserve food and water" if you want to, but saying that people "need" to is overstating the reality.

[Kiro]

So why are you downplaying this?

[6D794163636F756]

I think you're both attacking this problem from similar places. Panicking is a good way to get people to disregard safety measures. Shelter in place is important and one way to help it work is to reassure people that there are enough supplies.

From what I gathered, you're both saying that the correct situation is to stay in place because there are enough supplies? The key is to reinforce that idea and downplay the risk as long as everyone listens. If the roads are muddy and miserable remember that the more experienced participants prepared for this. Staying with them, sheltering in place is your best bet. If you try to leave and not follow safety protocols and the experienced participants you're likely to get yourself into trouble.

While you two are arguing it seems to be on the angle of approach and not the outcome. At least that's what it seems like to me who honestly has no idea what's going on and only barely read the article.

[jeremyt]

Seriously? You're still confused?

I believe the article is factually correct-ish, but is sensationalized and is spreading FUD and causing unnecessary potential panic.

That's why. I'm downplaying because it needs downplaying.

[thih9]

> I believe the article is factually correct-ish, but is sensationalized and is spreading FUD and causing unnecessary potential panic.

This wording is clear to me.

If this was in your original comment, I wouldn’t assume that you’re recommending to disregard safety measures.

Otherwise “ridiculous” or “:rolleyes:” are very ambiguous to me.

[rhaway84773]

I’m not clear where the article says people are going to starve or die or dehydration.