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by rightbyte 1030 days ago
How is it a problem worth solving? Any solution implies limiting what I use my own computer for.

Random photos without context will just lose their value as gossip evidence. Who cares.

If people use fake pictures for libel that is already illegal.
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Arainach 1030 days ago
>Random photos without context will just lose their value as gossip evidence. Who cares.

You answered your own question. If generative AI means that no one trusts any evidence and calls everything fake, that's a huge societal problem. We've already seen a certain subset of the population claiming that since 2016 with disastrous results (how do you convince someone who dismisses all evidence out of hand?)

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creer 1030 days ago
This sub-thread confuses all kinds of issues.

About not blindly trusting photos, that ship has sailed. The tools exist. Have existed long before generative AI. Are accessible. Do not require very much "talent". That's done. You can't blindly trust photos. When you get a photo or a few photos - be it in a scientific paper or a tabloid web site - you can ask yourself whether it makes sense. You can consider the context. Generative AI does not change that.

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Arainach 1030 days ago
I strongly disagree. There is a huge difference between "photos can theoretically be faked, we need to consult an expert" and "everyone I know is using meme generators to post pictures of themselves in historical events, nothing is believable" in terms of societal trust.
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9dev 1030 days ago
I disagree with your disagreement. Pandora’s box has been opened a while ago. There is nothing we, as a society, can do to reverse that.

Either you waste time discussing how that’s a bad thing, or accept the premise that pictures aren’t inherently trustworthy ways to convey information anymore, period.

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creer 1030 days ago
Perhaps an example helps. And then I'll agree to disagree :-)

If you are, 6 months ago, before generative AI, an exec or HR person and you spot on the web, or are helpfully sent, 2 photos of your cherished spokesperson having a great time at a nazi campout. Then what? Well, you better think a few cycles before firing that spokesperson. It may well be real, it may well be Photoshop.

Generative AI does not change that issue. Eventually it will make it easier to generate that content, not yet. But you are still making a decision that matters on the basis of very manageable labor. More manageable than before does not change the importance of the decision you have to make. Many will make that decision without considering it but it's more a question of awareness or care than means, no?

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