[JimtheCoder]

If you have never seen anyone in your gym bench 2 plates...well...I am not sure what to say to you. Maybe find a different gym?

The person I was responding to is talking about SS, why 5/3/1 is more appropriate, and things of that nature.

If he MAXED out at a 225 bench, a 325 deadlift and a 275 squat, he has no business really talking about this sort of stuff. You don't even need a structured program to hit those numbers...you just need to do it.

[bowsamic]

Why would I find a different gym just because people around me aren't lifting as much as you want them to be? I'm a 28 year old man and I can only bench 35kg (~77lbs) so why would I want to be around a bunch of people lifting 100kg+?

> If he MAXED out at a 225 bench, a 325 deadlift and a 275 squat, he has no business really talking about this sort of stuff. You don't even need a structured program to hit those numbers...you just need to do it.

I think you have a severely skewed idea of what it is common to lift.

[tayo42]

225 is about the low end of taking lifting seriously as a hobby. Hes right, you can get to those lifts without much structure. just eating right, and being consistent for a couple years will get you there without trying to optimize beginner programs.

Your view of what can be done in the gym is distorted by the gym you are in.

[bowsamic]

Why should I take lifting seriously as a hobby? What has lifting as a hobby got to do with anything? I don’t want to lift as a hobby if it means I’m doing it wrong until 100kg