[tayo42]

225 is about the low end of taking lifting seriously as a hobby. Hes right, you can get to those lifts without much structure. just eating right, and being consistent for a couple years will get you there without trying to optimize beginner programs.

Your view of what can be done in the gym is distorted by the gym you are in.

[bowsamic]

Why should I take lifting seriously as a hobby? What has lifting as a hobby got to do with anything? I don’t want to lift as a hobby if it means I’m doing it wrong until 100kg