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by thebears5454 1035 days ago
"adopting so-called zero bail policies allow repeat offenders to get out quickly and commit new crimes."

I don't think this is actually true. At least, it's never been shown to be true in any statistically significant way. It gets repeated because it "feels true"

They've already arrested several of these people. And they'll get more of them.

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There are lots of cases in Seattle. Like this guy who was arrested and released 18 times for shoplifting in Seattle over 15 months. And it takes a lot to get arrested for shoplifting in Seattle, so I can only imagine how many thefts a single person was able to achieve.

https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-city-attorney-promises-...

> Davison said her office has compiled a list of 118 people who together have generated more than 2,400 police referrals for misdemeanor charges in the past five years, all related to theft, trespassing, assault and weapons violations. While King County Jail generally declined to book people for non-violent offenses during the pandemic, Davison said jail officials have agreed to book up to 20 of the people targeted by this enforcement.

So here you have 118 people that have been arrested 20 times, or four times a year, over five years. They never do time, rarely show up for court, and are just released back out to victimize more people. It's a broken system.

Sometimes people are arrested multiple times in the same day: https://twitter.com/carmenbest/status/1187817532817846272

It's not just property crime either. There was a shooting in Seattle where innocent by-standers were shot, including a child, in a gunfight between two young men. They were later found to have been arrested 65 time prior despite being very young. And yet they were free to just roam around.

> According to court records, Tolliver has been arrested 44 times, convicted of one felony, 18 gross misdemeanors, and one misdemeanor. Records show Tolbert has been arrested 21 times, convicted of three felonies, and 12 gross misdemeanors.

... if only there was some warning they were dangerous to the public.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/seattle-police-iden...

The people that commit these opportunistic crimes is statistically small. You can't make valid conclusions either way. "feels true" is just as good as any conclusion. People that make shoplifting their career will continue to do what they know. No bail makes it so much easier, at some point it just doesn't matter if they get caught.

The issue is that we want all criminals prosecuted to the max but we don't want to pay to house them. This has caused overcrowded jails. Even now the prison system is so full that the governor has to figure out how to fix it. Imagine, if everyone has to post bail. It's not going to work.