[FirmwareBurner]

>Germany also does a piss poor job of showing that it actually wants immigrants.

Germany doesn't want immigrants, the business owners do, because they need labor.

[nickpp]

Then German consumers should want immigrants as well, if they want the products created by said businesses, no?

[FirmwareBurner]

Who said there are no immigrants? Every new year is a record immigration year. Also for housing prices.

The whole "we need even more immigrants" is wage suppression propaganda. Many of the big German business crying wolf have had record sales, only beeing kneecapped by the disappearance of cheap Russian gas and are trying to compensate it with cheaper labor.

[nicbou]

> The whole "we need even more immigrants" is wage suppression propaganda.

No, it's required to keep the pension scheme solvent.

[FirmwareBurner]

You're describing a Ponzi scheme. Maybe the Pension pot shouldn't be dependent on quantity of people and more on amount they put in.

[nickpp]

And also to keep the low prices of German products which keeps German businesses competitive and thus Germans employed, taxes paid, etc.

[FirmwareBurner]

You're making the race to the bottom manufacturing sound like an advantage Germany should aspire to. You have it backwards.

[nickpp]

I think German themselves made that race to the bottom when they selected cheap Russian gas as their main competitive advantage - as you very well noticed.

Do you think German manufacturing can compete with Chinese one once salaries grow?