[nicbou]

> The whole "we need even more immigrants" is wage suppression propaganda.

No, it's required to keep the pension scheme solvent.

[FirmwareBurner]

You're describing a Ponzi scheme. Maybe the Pension pot shouldn't be dependent on quantity of people and more on amount they put in.

[nickpp]

And also to keep the low prices of German products which keeps German businesses competitive and thus Germans employed, taxes paid, etc.

[FirmwareBurner]

You're making the race to the bottom manufacturing sound like an advantage Germany should aspire to. You have it backwards.

[nickpp]

I think German themselves made that race to the bottom when they selected cheap Russian gas as their main competitive advantage - as you very well noticed.

Do you think German manufacturing can compete with Chinese one once salaries grow?

[FirmwareBurner]

No, but is wage dumping the long term solution? Or is that bandaid on a arterial bleed?