| It was also the only moral and ethical position. If you think it through, the only reasons this “I’m a pacifist but” dime store morality can be entertained at all is because of the idea that Ukraine is winning, and because Western audiences (and to an extent even Ukrainian) have largely been isolated from the true costs of this war (to both sides; and also to Western economies and arsenals). Ukraine is winning I do not intend to litigate this again right now; we’re going to find out, most likely within a year, probably less. Should Ukraine in fact lose, I hope you will remember then that a generous deal was on the table (no loss of territory except obviously Crimea), and so hundreds of thousands will have died (and in fact have already) for much less than nothing. I'll leave you with this: https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1679909338276671488 |
So your telling me if your family was in the occupied parts of Ukraine, being tortured by the Russians, raped, etc you’d be happy to hand over that territory to the Russians and just let it all go?.
> Should Ukraine in fact lose, I hope you will remember then that a generous deal was on the table (no loss of territory except obviously Crimea), and so hundreds of thousands will have died (and in fact have already) for much less than nothing.
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians haven’t died yet so you’ll have to wait a bit longer for that to come true im afraid.
> I'll leave you with this: https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1679909338276671488
Plenty of bad things have happened in the war in Ukraine for Ukraine that was covered by real media.
Yet you pick a tweet from a Russian propaganda account.