[spookthesunset]

Covid isn’t actually that dangerous for the vast majority of people. We have almost four years if data showing that.

The vaccines dangers are questionable. There are huge incentives to cover up any dangers and pharmaceutical companies and governments have a long history of covering up dangerous medial products and drugs.

[Timon3]

Perfect example for the downplaying, thank you!

[spookthesunset]

Okay but the data suggests I’m not downplaying anything.

[Timon3]

Your comment is literally downplaying the dangers of Covid while talking up the dangers of vaccines.

[spookthesunset]

For most populations, covid is not nearly as dangerous as what got pushed by the media. We have tons of actual data to back that. The median age of death from covid is higher than the average life expectancy of a human. Most healthy people under the age of like 70 will handle covid just fine. This is an absolute fact that downplays nothing.

There is nothing that isn't a fact about what I just said. I'm not downplaying anything. You are, in fact, overplaying the risks of covid. Which itself is a form of misinformation that somehow has been allowed to continue to circulate.

[Timon3]

> For most populations, covid is not nearly as dangerous as what got pushed by the media. We have tons of actual data to back that.

What danger got "pushed by the media"? Are you talking about right-wing media that downplayed the dangers all along ("it's just a flu!")?

> The median age of death from covid is higher than the average life expectancy of a human. Most healthy people under the age of like 70 will handle covid just fine. This is an absolute fact that downplays nothing.

Sure. Most healthy people will still benefit from the vaccines, as they lower the chance for long Covid for the ~10-15% of healthy people who don't handle Covid just fine, and it - you know - keeps those not healthy and under 70 from dying. Small things like that.

> There is nothing that isn't a fact about what I just said. I'm not downplaying anything. You are, in fact, overplaying the risks of covid.

Where have I done that? You just went off and said "it's not that dangerous" without even stating what you're comparing the level of danger to. You were, literally in the most literal sense, downplaying the dangers of Covid while talking up the dangers of the vaccine.

[spookthesunset]

Once you unsubscribe to political tribalism you will see how badly your tribe played you.

Trust me. I was you before these lockdowns. I even phone banked for Obama. I had nightmares when trump was elected. I sneered and disowned trump people. Now I’m a political orphan who will probably never again vote (D).

My (former) political party tossed literally their entire platform to hitch onto covid hysteria.

Stop playing tribalism. It isn’t healthy and sets you up to get played. We are all just people. Most of us are right in the center just trying to live. Both parties are authoritarian, fascist assholes that want to steal your rights.

Covid was and is real but it turned political and not in the way you think. You and a lot of other people like me got badly, badly played. Once you realize that, all the mental gymnastics required to support your takes on covid melt away. And even better, you can finally stop hating other people. Unfortunately it also means you’ll have to accept you probably wasted three years of your very short life playing covid theater and getting all worked up about other people (rightfully) disregarding all of it…

[dekhn]

Sorry, but I think the person you are responding to is probably technically correct in this case. Many people formed their opinions about COVID during the early pandemic where there were lots of breathless articles about children dying,

COVID risk seems to be mostly related to other, known risk factors that are personalized.

This is supported by most current medical literature.

[gerbilly]

So so what?

What matters is how people evaluated the information at the time when there was uncertainty about the severity.

Just because he the poster may have gotten lucky doesn't mean his arguments were well founded during the time period where it mattered.