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by csw-001 1069 days ago
This is interesting. For a while I had a client who drug their consultants and leadership into endless meetings, so we put a "cost of this meeting" calculation in the invite, notes, and handouts. It changed almost nothing. The problem was that the spending number was viewed as a cost of doing business. The difference between "expensing" a $500 meal and cutting a $500 meeting is that I get to eat the meal. I think for this to work you've got to directly pass on the saving. In many workplaces nobody cares if a canceled meeting makes an executive's bonus bigger...

Final thought - we need to be careful not to cut out all human interactions. COVID showed how isolating life can be without friends you see at work everyday. We shouldn't be using made-up-reason-meetings as an venue for mentorship, connection, and socialization, but sometimes that's exactly what happens. People hate meetings, but people get lonely...

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Some people get lonely. But that's not universal.

Meetings shouldn't be social for the sake of being social. I agree that there's a social aspect to work, but don't use meetings as an excuse for social engagement.

Instead, a company should embrace that social-ness of doing in-person work and just let people socialize without a penalty. I'd argue that a company that promotes social activities and connectedness between workers is one that performs better anyway.

And for those who don't want to socialize and work better in isolation, let them. Meetings, by definition, probably feel like a "waste of time" for at least one or more attendees. People should feel like they are empowered to choose which meetings are most beneficial to their work.

My coworkers are not my friends. I don't make friends at work, I maintain professional relationships. I connect with them on LinkedIn, I don't friend them on Facebook. We discuss work-related topics and we solve problems.

I don't chit-chat with my coworkers about music videos or church or the weather. I don't get intimate with my coworkers or try to ask them out for drinks, or tell them how pretty their eyes look. I don't invite them over to hang out at the pool.

It is perhaps unfortunate, but American corporate culture, as a direct result of its diversity and inclusion, has become a culture of non-intimacy and non-engagement. If I attempted to make "friends" at work, I'd risk being nailed for insubordination, loafing, or sexual harassment. It's not worth it, so we find our friends and dates outside the company.

Not sure how you're coming to your conclusion about DEI being responsible for "non-intimacy and non-engagement."

If you can't make friends at work without being "nailed for insubordination, loafing or sexual harassment," you might want to take a good hard look in the mirror at how you behave with your friends.

I chit-chat with my friends about music videos or church or the weather. I get intimate with my friends, and ask them out for drinks, and tell them how pretty their eyes look. I invite them over to hang out at the pool. I have strong, trusting, and healthy relationships with my friends.

I also have strong, trusting, and healthy relationships with my coworkers. I'm not quite sure what the fuck you're trying to insinuate, friend, but I'm not paid enough to care.

My insinuation here is if you get "nailed for insubordination, loafing or sexual harassment" while hanging out with your friends...

You may be in fact be performing "insubordination, loafing or sexual harassment." while hanging out with friends.

Should you be nailed for those? Maybe. Should you be doing those? Maybe?

I do have single female friends with pretty eyes, and they're quite receptive to sincere compliments, so I feel sorry for you if that seems unfair. In fact, it would be unfair to my friends if I didn't flirt with them a little and increase those bonds of trust and intimacy.

Do you even know the definitions of "insubordination" or "loafing"? How could I possibly do those things in my leisure time outside of work with people who don't work with me?

Insubordination: "disobedience to lawful authority; specifically, an employee's failure or refusal to comply with a request or an assignment given by his/her supervisor."

Loaf: "(intransitive) To do nothing, to be idle."

I don't know what you think relationships with friends are like, but you sure have weird ideas if you actually think they would reprimand me for low productivity. Which one of your friends has been appointed lawful authority over you? Or is it a hereditary role, like "King of pests"? Lord of the Flies?

I said "Should you be nailed for those? Maybe".

So yes I do agree with most of your comment but you did skip past the sexual harrassment one.