[falcrist]

Microcontrollers exist. Their libraries are written in/for C. The programs running on them are small and need tight, efficient memory management.

I also like the minimalist nature of the language itself. I get that for desktop applications, you usually want more integration with the operating system so you can say "I want a window here and a button here" rather than having to manually build the window from scratch, but that's not something that's a concern in most embedded systems.

I'm operating in a world of voltage inputs and outputs, memory mapped devices, registers, flags, and timings... with almost nothing between me and the hardware. A simple language makes a lot of sense here.

[pjmlp]

Are the Arduino and ESP32 microcontrollers?

Hint, might check their libraries/SDKs before answering.

[falcrist]

Arduino is a platform, not a microcontroller. ESP32 is technically a microcontroller, but it's an SOC... which is not the kind that generally gets used for industrial applications in the field I'm in.

You shouldn't assume I get to choose the platform I'm working on. That's not how it works where I'm at, and if (when) I do get to choose, programming language is unlikely to be near the top of the list of criteria.

[pjmlp]

Whatever you are forced to chose doesn't make the other options disappear from the market.

[falcrist]

The other options aren't relevant to my comment.

If you're going to be pedantic, you need to be both relevant and correct. You are neither.

[bathMarm0t]

Don't think I'm too crazy but last time I checked:

1. Yes they are microcontrollers.

2. Yes they use C/C++. (check the libraries/SDKs, 1 layer under the hood it's all .h/.cpp files, and most of the arduino calls are just #defines)

[pjmlp]

So it isn't only C.

[falcrist]

It absolutely is only C on the microcontrollers I'm doing work on.

I don't understand why you're trying to cherry-pick like this.

[pjmlp]

I wasn't the one making an universal truth out of it.

"Their libraries are written in/for C"

[falcrist]

The statement you quoted is true of both of the examples you gave.

Also, you've deliberately chosen a specific interpretation of my statement in order to manufacture an argument that doesn't exist. You should probably avoid doing that in the future.