The statement you quoted is true of both of the examples you gave.
Also, you've deliberately chosen a specific interpretation of my statement in order to manufacture an argument that doesn't exist. You should probably avoid doing that in the future.
It's almost like I have some domain knowledge that you don't. Imagine coming in here with examples that aren't even microcontrollers as if that "debunks" what I said above. Like somehow magically I can just switch to a whole different platform. No problem, just crank out a new board spin and swap my whole toolchain over so I can... what... use a non-standard version of C in the arduino IDE for production code? If you think THAT'S a viable option, you've lost your mind.
Why continue to double down when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about?
> I avoid whatever I feel like.
You should "feel like" avoiding inventing arguments that hinge on misinterpretations of other people's statements. The fact that you don't makes you a problem.
Meanwhile, I can't avoid C even if I "feel like it"... because I write code for microcontrollers... which have libraries that are written in and for C.
I don't understand why you're trying to cherry-pick like this.