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by cardanome 1077 days ago
Many of my programming jobs in PHP had me working with people that were super anal about "good coding practices". Especially the Symfony guys seem to try to be the new ultra-corporate Java. So I don't think it a issue with the language but more that you didn't find your people. (Personally, I actual like working with legacy crap. It's easy money and reminds me of the past when things were simpler.)

I feel most of the PHP community is pretty mature these days. More pragmatic than Rust, sure but that is a good point in my book. Though I am glad you found your enlightenment.
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lakomen 1076 days ago
Symfony was the worst. Holy shit dude. I still have to deal with a legacy Symfony project, which needs to be rewritten because of their... I don't even know what to call it.

That stof guy was one of the worst. Inconsistencies, incompatibility. But the dogma was strong.

Indeed they wanted to be the Java of PHP. And so inefficient. Imagine duplicating all variables of a request context for dogmas sake. So you can later do Request->getVar() from their own copy. It shows a basic not understanding of the language.

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sshine 1076 days ago
> I don't think it a issue with the language but more that you didn't find your people

I can be more specific: I'm identifying problems with the language ecosystem.

I deliberately didn't shit on the people involved; I'll definitely ride the #not-all-php-programmers (I've met some great ones), but it takes a broken mind to accept a toolchain this historically fallible as something with which you'd want to recreate the Java ecosystem. ;-)

Have you tried Java?

It's definitely a better Java than PHP!

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