[AHOHA]

I can do the same with almost any IP camera and even USB one with low latency and maximum quality the camera can supports. If anyone is interested in such setup I can do a quick write up about or maybe a repo with the configs needed.

[quaintdev]

I want to do same thing with smart plugs. There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere. I don't want to control from anywhere dammit. I just want control on my LAN.

Edit: At least on amazon.in I could not find any.

https://www.amazon.in/s?k=smart+plugs

[jjnoakes]

> There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere.

Don't ZigBee and zwave smart plugs work locally only?

[lima]

Yep. Zigbee is the way to go - it is a whole ecosystem of "local by design" devices.

[tjoff]

If starting anew Thread is probably a better bet. Such as the Eve smart plug.

But with both zigbee/thread the problem is shifted towards the gateway instead so you'll have to do it yourself / pick one tu trust there. But here I think/hope Thread is going to have better interoperability.

[malermeister]

With ZigBee at least there's dumb gateways that just plug into USB. I run one of those using a raspberry pi!

[nucleardog]

Yep. Both are local only by design.

And if you don’t want to deal with the hub potentially being your next issue, you can always throw home assistant on a computer / raspberry pi / whatever and control them locally. If you want remote access when you’re off your network, it’s up to you to figure out how to securely get the bits from your phone to your home assistant server.

[JohnFen]

> it’s up to you to figure out how to securely get the bits from your phone to your home assistant server.

And that's not really terribly hard. I run a VPN server at home, and connect from my phone through that.

[NavinF]

Such smart plugs exist and it's right in the name: https://cloudfree.shop/

Dunno if they ship to India, but I'm sure you can find similar products on AliExpress if you search for the same keywords

[jonpurdy]

+1 for Cloudfree. I don't know much about IoT but I bought 5 of their plugs and they literally took under a minute to get set up and running. Another few minutes to get data off of them and into Influx Cloud using Python.

I wish more manufacturers provided this sort of thing!

[blackfawn]

I'd recommend looking at Tasmota and/or ESPHome support list and getting one of those. Both are 100% open source and do not talk to any external servers. Some devices can be reflashed over-the-air and some need to be taken apart and flashed via a serial header. A few devices, such as from Athom, come preloaded with Tasmota. Tasmota has a list of IN-specific devices: https://templates.blakadder.com/in.html Here is an example of opening one up and connecting to the serial header: https://templates.blakadder.com/oakter_oak_plug_plus_16A.htm...

[qwertox]

I didn't find it on amazon.in, but in Germany we have this option which I'm very happy with https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0054PSH9C

These come pre-flashed with Tasmota, which can rudimentarily be controlled via an HTTP API, and fully via MQTT.

Here's a list of all Plugs and Sockets which can be flashed with this firmware: https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html

[raesene9]

I get mine from here https://www.mylocalbytes.com/products/smart-plug-pm , pre-flashed with Tasmota, no cloud included.

they also have bulbs too. Got both setup with Home assistant, seems to work fine.

[Fatnino]

For the light switch in my room I slapped together a relay and a raspberry pi pico and a Bluetooth board (I think I saw recently that the pico w now has working Bluetooth as well?)

Now I can control the lights from my bed even when the LAN is down.

Here are my rough notes on the project https://github.com/Yossi/Bluetooth_lightswitch

[CapstanRoller]

Tasmota is what you need!

https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html

https://tasmota.github.io/docs/

https://github.com/arendst/Tasmota

[theshrike79]

Shelly devices can be de-cloudified with a single button: https://www.shelly.cloud/

[geek_at]

was about to point out Shelly too which by default has cloud disabled, can be controlled by MQTT or REST API without an internet connection

[vladvasiliu]

As others have said, look for Zigbee devices. I have an Osram SomethingOrOther, that connects to my Hue bridge, which isn't connected to the internet. Philips makes a similar plug.

The fact is that the Hue bridge supports connecting to a cloud for control from anywhere, so they'll advertise that since it's what many people are after. But it works perfectly fine offline, and you can manage it via Home Assistant, for example.

[akaitea]

I have a DeLock 11826 WiFi socket smart plug which comes with Tasmota and can be flashed to newest Tasmota version, works great and no cloud

[wkat4242]

Shelly is pretty good for this. Their Android app really sucks badly but the good thing is you only need it for the initial setup.

Whatever you do, don't buy TP-Link. Those had local control but they removed it due to "security concerns" in an automatic update. And of course promoting their data mining cloud had nothing to do with it.

[btzs]

Get one with preflashed Tasmota. They are local connection only.

[janfoeh]

Eve (former Elgato) smartplugs are local-only Homekit devices.

[ChainOfFools]

Other than every single one that uses zigbee/zwave and not Wi-Fi. You can also use services like Cloud cutter or select devices listed on the Blakader website of tasmota-flashable silicon. Or if you're willing to go a little deeper into the weeds, you can use ESP home for more fine-grained control.

[projektfu]

Kasa switches have been successfully opened up, software wise.

https://python-kasa.readthedocs.io/en/latest/smartplug.html

[vin047]

Take a look at TP-Link HS100 and HS110. You can control them with this script https://github.com/softScheck/tplink-smartplug

[dinom]

Have you considered using a usb relay instead of a "smart plug"?

   https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/344691

It's often cheaper and easier.

[gubby]

> There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere

Look at Shelly devices, they are exactly what you are looking for (in no way affiliated)

[stavros]

There are lots of those. I recommend Sonoff if you must go with wifi, but I really recommend Zigbee instead.

[smokeydoe]

I think most of us here are interested in such setup…

[AHOHA]

Wilco, sir! And will update this comment when I do.

[wingworks]

Incase it's not obvious yet, I would also be interested.

[lbotos]

another enthusiastic yes here! Would love to read it!

[panta]

another interested person here!

[gettodachoppa]

Could I ask for some advice?

I was gifted a new rando chinese IP cam that uses the mobile app. It's not googlable. I've been using as a outside security camera. The camera saves to an SD card continuously, and has a paid option to use the cloud which I did not take. It has a mobile app, KP WIFICAM, which lets me view the feed in real-time even over the Internet.

I can even view or download the past few days of recordings on the SD card from a menu. However, they are separated into chunks of 10 minutes, so I would have to manually download nearly 100 files files (tap, Download, wait to finish, move to next clip) to get a single day of recordings.

How could I automate/simplify the downloading of these clips from the SD cards to my laptop? How is the mobile app listing the recordings and fetching them?

I ran a tool called Agent-DVR and it found the camera feed using a format called ONVIF. So I think the mobile app uses this protocol https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29159422/get-data-from-l... , is there a tool like this available for Linux I could use without spending a couple of days installing a developer environment and writing my own code?

[azalemeth]

One simple workaround might be to get a wireless SD card? There are a few of these for DSLRs, where they have some (relatively small) amount of storage but come with the ability to join the network and share it via samba seamlessly...

[travisporter]

Would love to know more - are these still on the market? Amazon results are really sketcy

[senojsitruc]

If you have a device on which you can run my app (streamie.co), it’ll record your camera 24/7 to a NAS or S3 and write out .mov files (also ten minute segments), but they’d be trivially combined with ffmpeg. As long as you don’t need more than three cameras, it’s all free.

[tjoff]

Almost any IP camera? Surely it is going to be very unqiue depending on vendor/hardware?

[throwaway14356]

you should sell an application to manage many cams from a pc with a phone app to access it remotely.

The significant other has 4 different apps for cams. They each have silly issues, sd cards are to small and they all charge wild fees for cloud storage that they didn't disclose before purchase.

I can buy new ones but with the cheaper ones it is more likely a repetition of the mistake made 4 times already.

The software can be 6 times as expensive as the cams and still be entirely worth it.

What I also want is someone in a low wage country watching a wall full of cams cycling from one cam to the next. That service western security companies charge thousands per month for. Robbery right there!

[CapstanRoller]

This would be incredibly useful! Please consider contributing this info to https://wiki.zoneminder.com/

[pie314isi]

I think a lot of people would be very interested if you had a general method for many brands of camera

[tlavoie]

I've got some Reolink Argus 2s, which are probably Linux under the hood. They're not set up to stream locally without an app, unlike their wired models, but there are likely functionality limitations due to being battery powered.

Any thoughts?

[LTL_FTC]

This would be great. Google sent out an email not long ago that they were discontinuing nest cams. Mine still works great but soon will become a paperweight, otherwise.

[jiva]

Sorry but I am skeptical. Unless you’ve managed to reverse engineer “almost any IP camera”, I’ll believe this when I see it.

[newhotelowner]

No comment in 3 days. I refreshed everyday to see if he replied.

[xattt]

Can you do nest cam?

[lormayna]

For sure, I have a cheap set of Chinese cameras and I would like to remove the default crappy firmware

[beckerdo]

Would love to get general directions for a Blink camera.

[lylejantzi3rd]

Yes, please. I have a Kasa cam I'd love to make local.

[noyesno]

I’m certainly interested to read more about your setup.

[jamiek88]

I too would love to hear more!

[pokot0]

Pretty please!

[bozhark]

Please do!

[ryaneager]

Would it work with a Nest camera?