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by CtrlAltDelete51 1084 days ago
You have a source for any of that?

Speaking personally, everyone I’ve spoken to on the matter (myself included) have zero desire to return to a traditional office.

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I guess I’m one who likes the office. Not every day. But frequently. And I think I could build a culture with in-office time that would out-compete a remote-only competitor, domestic only or offshore hybrid.
What part of this culture would make it more competitive than any remote-only equivalent? And how would you build it?
> What part of this culture would make it more competitive than any remote-only equivalent?

Hiring, the same way RO outfits can access unique talent, and information transfer, particularly to newer team members. Also, in industries where over-documentation is an unnecessary liability.

I'm a software engineer, and I think the fully remote-work culture can often be less personally fulfilling.

I enjoy going to an office, having a change of scenery, interacting with people (both close friends and casual acquaintances), brainstorming ideas with a small group around a whiteboard, getting lunch with colleagues, etc, etc...

Sure, the "writing code" part of the job is easier when there are fewer distractions. And a crowded open office can be an annoying source of distractions.

And I definitely enjoy having lunch more often with my family, or hanging out with the dogs, or sitting out on my deck under the trees while I read my morning email.

But working in an office was nice too, and I miss it.

Heh, you ask for a source and then just provide a personal anecdote?
How many people do you know? When WFH was mandated, I hated it. When the mandate was finally kicked, I loved going back to the office, and have spent almost every workday at the office, despite having the possibility to do 40% WFH if I wanted. No, I don't want that, thank you. Not a coder, working as admin. I like people, that is why I work in an office. And personal experience is definitely that working together with people who are currently at home usually slows down processes quite a bit. Besides, sometimes, WFH-people are just not reachable, because reasons... Daughter has sneezed the first time, or wife has decided she needs to go for her yoga class and coworker suddenly needs to care for a 4-year-old... And, god forbid, if you ever say anything when these blatantly shameless things happen, you are the bad guy.
> Not a coder, working as admin

The working environment which is conducive to a successful developer vs a successful admin are, most likely (in my experience), two completely different environments.

"Besides, sometimes, WFH-people are just not reachable, because reasons... Daughter has sneezed the first time, or wife has decided she needs to go for her yoga class and coworker suddenly needs to care for a 4-year-old... And, god forbid, if you ever say anything when these blatantly shameless things happen, you are the bad guy."

This is obviously hyperbole for... living a life?

Are you referring to individual employees or the companies? Clearly many companies are mandating RTO despite remote/self-determined hybrid supported by a strong majority of employee sentiment (and often performance data)
A source for companies rolling out return-to-office plans? It's all over the news. Not sure what you're asking.
I like going to the office, i know many people who prefer it.