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by adamwong246 1089 days ago
But like, IS it really that hard? Money is easy enough to provide, presuming we can run this machine at a loss (for now) and humans can fill in the last-mile. Even box-opening can be automated soon. I think it's within reach of a sufficiently motivated and funded grad student. Certainly within the reach of Mr Bezos.
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throwuwu 1089 days ago
Not arguing with that. My point is that the gap between humans helping it and it being fully autonomous is much bigger than you would think. Even if you design a system with a bunch of robotic arms and other equipment, the AI then has to be able to replicate and install somewhere else that entire set up using only what it currently has or can assemble with its current facilities. That’s a really big challenge!
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sitkack 1089 days ago
It can pay people to do that.
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throwuwu 1088 days ago
Wouldn’t be fully autonomous then since people would be a requirement.
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sitkack 1088 days ago
Distinction without a difference.

Putin is also not "fully autonomous" in that regard, yet here we are.

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throwuwu 1088 days ago
He still rules by consent, if the rest of his government decide they don’t like his style anymore then they can get rid of him. The original comment was about fully autonomous AI in the context of software making hardware making software which I took to mean independent of human intervention. If we include humans then we’re already there since humans use software to make hardware which runs the software etc. and this becomes a dull proposition.
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sitkack 1087 days ago
> becomes a dull proposition

An AI can that can hire mercenaries isn't dull. Or design a circuit board, have it made and assembled and delivered to contractor to use in the field.

I apologize for engaging.

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