[diabolo96]

The problem of indie games is that indie devs with no prior knowledge of programming, no prior artistic talent, either in terms of crafting an enticing narrative and/or graphical design wake up one day, decide to drop of university/quit their job to create their big commercial "dream game".

The problem is that they often jump over the first step of learning how to make a game and go straight to publish their barely passable buggy mishmash of half baked ideas with no quality control or beta-testing done.

What they first should've done is make and publish a few small but fun games for free, learn from their mistakes and user inputs and use their new knowledge to make a bigger, better game. If enough people tell them that it's worth buying it then they can sell it .

[rasz]

>The problem is that they often jump over the first step of learning how to make a game and go straight to publish their barely passable buggy mishmash of half baked ideas with no quality control or beta-testing done.

Hey, it worked for Adam Nickerson! Felicia Day and Adam Nickerson play Poosh XL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEbLXKKkvSQ

http://www.adamvisionstudios.com

[rideontime]

What part of the article gives you the impression that this was the case?

[diabolo96]

i meant in general.

[rideontime]

Ah. Did you have any opinion on the article?

[diabolo96]

When i was a kid I spent hours and hours playing Burrito Bison on Newgrounds so I know Juicy Beast know how to make games, really good and enjoyable games.

As for the article, it was an interesting read and I almost predicted every raison why the game was a failure but I don't agree with some:

1.The "strike a deal first" one is nonsensical. Get famous enough on one platform and the sales will be as good on the others. 2. Only one console at a time should've been obvious ( currently it's the Switch first, others later)

I also think that a significant part of the failure comes from the fact that the market was saturated with party games at the time as i remember seeing a lot of ads about similar games and then it just stopped. Also, these kind of games are not really that interesting and become repetitive very fast and no single-player / online multi-player killed it before it was even out.

[diabolo96]

I should've said first that this is comment was a rant about the general state of the indie game dev industry and not related to the article but i can't edit my comment for some reason

[bequanna]

Is there any indication that games that do have excellent art and storytelling are much more likely to succeed?

[diabolo96]

They dont need to be excellent but at least not dumpster worthy. Is that too much to ask ? for game stores to not being flooded with bug-ridden half baked asset flips or cringy VNs