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by psKama 1099 days ago
I thought the same at first but then I remember all those teenagers out there just stepping into adulthood with noone to guide them in life. They can easily get tricked into this, wasting their potential.
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Joining the military was the best decision of my life but ymmv
If it had no downsides, it could be an easy choice. But between the dubious morality, war crimes and PTSD, it's hard to compensate regardless of the positives (money, relatively, discipline, physical fitness?)
> dubious morality

I rendered humanitarian assistance that saved lives in the wake of the Sumatra earthquakes. My friends have done the same after the Japanese Tsunami.

If that were the only things soldiers did. However...

Either way, you did something good. Unlike many of your comrades. You got the lucky ticket that was the thing you were ordered to do (or offered to volunteer).

> Unlike many of your comrades.

What do you mean by that?

Destroying things and intentionally killing. You know, the things uniquely soldiers are trained and desensitized to do.
I don’t think you have to join the military to do that.
I don't need to join the military to airlift hundreds of tons of supplies from ship to shore in a natural disaster?
I guess op thinks that the supply chain delivers itself in an emergency.
How many military avionics technicians or dental assistants or petroleum supply specialists end up committing war crimes or suffering from PTSD? Come on.

We should be more judicious about using military forces as part of foreign policy, and provide better support to the combat troops who are deployed into impossible situations. But the majority of personnel are in low risk support jobs that aren't much different from typical civilian jobs. Lose the hyperbole.

> How many military avionics technicians or dental assistants or petroleum supply specialists end up committing war crimes or suffering from PTSD? Come on

In some countries, working for a criminal organization, will land you in jail.

You don’t get to choose, once you signed up. They can send you wherever they want.
Bullshit. Most enlistment contracts specify a particular career field. The troops in combat arms are there because they chose that option. The Pentagon isn't going to take a dental assistant and reassign them to infantry unless they specifically request that change (and meet various eligibility criteria).
That doesn’t mean that you can’t be sent to a war zone. I’m sure they needed dental assistants in Iraq and Afghanistan too.
You can choose. Get it in the contract or don't sign.
Your contract specified that you wouldn’t be sent to a war zone? I don’t believe that. You might be able to find a job that’s unlikely to get you deployed.
If the US military starts wantonly changing enlistment contracts, we aren't that far from a national draft anyway, so the distinction is kind of meaningless.
Yes, I'd call all of those (at the very least) accomplices when in a military context.

Good luck bombing anything without mechanics or gasoline, and medical staff helps lower the perceived stakes of war (however slightly).

I assure you that the average US soldier does not have a job nearly exciting enough to be committing war crimes. The average soldier is positioned in a nondescript base in the middle of Kansas changing HMMV tires and engine oil.

It's pretty hard to execute this job with dubious morality.

Happy to hear it worked out well for you. My point isn't to dismiss military as a career.

It's more about if you are a teenager deciding to join military because you believe the things a psyops egirl on TikTok told you, it's very likely that a series of disappointments is awaiting for you there on top of the opportunity cost of your wrong choice.

Sure you were on the first line of fire...
What's that?
Yeah... but if they can be tricked into joining the military, they're incredibly likely to waste their potential on other internet traps than divert it into something productive.

This give them a couple years of (mostly) internet detox before getting sent back into it.

“Anyone who can be fooled by an internet scam should be sent to war” is faulty in two ways, given that it hinges on a young person making poorly informed decisions:

  - being sent to war should probably not be the result of being young and gullible
  - if we need to send anyone to war, should we send the dumbest people we can find?
Productive… not sure the military produces much. More on the blow things up side of the divide if ya ask me.

But sure, if they don’t lose a limb, die or become traumatized and kill themselves it’s not a bad life course.