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by coverband 1111 days ago
I thought they were already working with a very slim headcount? How the heck did they get to 2,000 employees?
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Apparently they got a bit carried away after a fundraising round https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/9/22274077/reddit-funding-ro...

Astonishing really considering Reddit hasn't changed that much since back when they had like 100 employees.

> reddit hasn't changed that much

It's changed dramatically, but many of the visible changes are for the worse!

To error is human but to really screw things up requires significant manpower.

this! it's a radically different website, and has been through some really intense changes over the years, from the people, the methods of influencing the platform, and the platform's own position on the content and it's moderation.
Also when you consider the company generates none of the content and performs none of the content moderation.
> Astonishing really considering Reddit hasn't changed that much

If I had a dollar for every “X is trivial” comment on HN…

Yes you are right. It is brought up a lot. But the crazy thing is that despite it coming up in every other thread, I have yet to see a solid explanation. Some theories (it looks good for VCs!!!!!), some half-assed justification (akshually, running web apps does need thousands of engineers), and a lot of people agreeing that it's crazy.

I think it's probably true that most companies are overstaffed. He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named managed to cut headcount 80% at a fairly prominent tech employer and drama aside, the business has not severely suffered. Could Ford Motor Company or US steel or Delta Airlines lay off 80% of their workforce and manage to maintain and grow operations as well as the bird app has managed to? I doubt it.

> He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named managed to cut headcount 80% at a fairly prominent tech employer and drama aside, the business has not severely suffered

We need to stop repeating this lie.

They have reduced site reliability to reddit levels, had multiple breaches (probably far more than the ones we know about) and managed to get in trouble in multiple countries.

And yes, they were overstaffed like any other company hiring during the pandemic but not by 80%.

I wouldn't pay 5x for that reliability increase.

And I blame the breaches on churn more than head count. And the 'getting in trouble' is generally because of the new things being added.

I mean... according to him, that company's business HAS suffered. Granted, he blames it on a conspiracy out to "cancel" him with advertisers rather than technical problems, but still.
The advertiser exodus has been caused by Elon's contentious personality and his strategic decisions on how to structure Twitter as an experience, with regard to re-platforming controversial users, broadening the definition of acceptable content, and so on and so forth.

It has not been caused by laying off 6,000 project managers and react developers, and will not be fixed by bringing back on 6,000 people at six figure salaries.

The app itself is functioning well even as the number of users has increased and number of staff decreased, and not only is it being maintained, but they seem to be regularly releasing new features without protracted delays or major technical bungles.

Many advertisers have backed off because laying off a lot of people has led to a worse product.

Many more advertisers who might have otherwise been persuaded to stay by sales reps they had contact with have backed off because those sales reps themselves were let go.

One could genuinely make an argument that most SV tech companies have way more employees than they need. And one could almost trivially prove that to be true (many Tech companies were hiring developers not because they needed them, but to keep them out of the hands of competitors). That does not make Elon’s slash and burn destruction of Twitter sensible by any measure.

Meta is also offloading vast number of employees and it’s managing to do it without making it sound like their company is a dumpster fire.

Elon’s approach to Twitter is highly reminiscent of the Stephen Elop burning platform memo to Nokia, but orders of magnitudes worse.

> broadening the definition of acceptable content

Let's call it what it is: he is using his power to promote some people and some ideologies while actively censoring others.

> as the number of users has increased

Source?

I don’t get this. The business has suffered severely. But more relevantly, the product has suffered severely.

The most prominent example was the failed DeSantis presidential announcement.

I mean, Twitch regularly does larger livestreams with video!

Elon Musk. Everything Dumbledore said about Voldemort applies here too. If you don’t want to give him the power, don’t give him the power.

But that aside, your point is very good.

Being silly is different from being scared of him.
You’re right. Reddit has changed quite a bit for the worse.
I guess Musk should have tried to buy Reddit first..