[ghostwriter]

Let's see, in 1994 Ukraine supports military uprisal in Chechnya and aids separatists and their terrorist field commanders arriving from Saudi Arabia and Middle East [1] in a war against Russia on the territory of Russia. Namely, UNA-UNSO (a nationalist “patriotic” [2] organization in Ukraine [3]) leaders Anatoli Lupinos and Dimitro Korchinski led Ukrainian delegations to Grozny to meet with Chechen leaders. Fast forward in 1995, the UNSO fighters organized as the “Viking Brigade” under the command of Oleksandr Muzychko (a man who vowed to fight "communists, Jews and Russians for as long as blood flows in his veins" [4]), are illegally crossing the Russian border in Chechnya and join Mujahideen terrorists in their fight against Russian regulary army.

Twenty years after, when the chickens of the foreign policy had come home to roost in Donbass of 2014, someone nicknamed "golergka" thinks that everything that contradicts his worldview must be a "completely crazy propaganda".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen_in_Chechnya

[2] https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=una+unso&form=HDRSC3&fi...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_National_Assembly_%E...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Muzychko

[vladgur]

Ukraine SUPPORTS military appraisal in Chechny in 1994?

Do you want to actually read the Wikipedia article about UNA that you linked to? UNA barely got 0.5% during 1994 elections and that was their best year.

In other words what youre saying is that actions leaders of some nationalistic organization that does not represent 99.985% of Ukrainians is representative of Ukraine? That is absurd!

[lisasays]

Yup - they're literally saying that the fact of a tiny fringe group that managed to get involved with the Muj in Chechnya -- is equivalent to saying that Ukraine as a whole (or its government, whatever) supported those folks.

Which kind of like saying, "Well gosh, a lot of Irish folks in Boston supported the IRA back in the 70s-80s. Which means, you know, the United States supported the IRA!"

[dragonwriter]

> Which kind of like saying, "Well gosh, a lot of Irish folks in Boston supported the IRA. Which means, you know, the United States supported the IRA!"

American support for the IRA was a lot higher, AFAICT, than Ukrainian support for anyone aligned against Russia in Chechnya was.

[ghostwriter]

> Yup - they're literally saying that the fact of a tiny fringe group that managed to get involved with the Muj in Chechnya -- is equivalent to saying that Ukraine as a whole (or its government, whatever) supported those folks.

Yup - they're literally saying that the fact of a tiny fringe group that managed to get involved with Crimea and Donbass in 2014 -- is equivalent to saying that Russia as a whole (or its government, whatever) supported those folks.

Yup - they're literally saying that the fact of a tiny fringe group that managed to get involved with the terrorists in Baghdad/Kabul -- is equivalent to saying that Iraq/Afghanistan as a whole (or its government, whatever) supported those folks.

In other words, the person registered "77 days ago" loses their entire awareness of role reversal in an attempt to fit reality into their botched worldview. It would be nice to hear, at least, what Ukraine did do to prosecute the so called fringe group that was threatening foreign relations of the entire state, but that would be too much for you to answer. Especially in the light of knowing that UNA-UNSO got integrated into the governing body of the country [1]. Let me guess: "they are still the minority". Great coping nonetheless.

[1] https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/206070.html

[lisasays]

A tiny fringe group that managed to get involved with Crimea and Donbass in 2014

And on and on, in circles we go ...